Lib Dem Polls - How Low Can They Go?
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Oswaldtwistle
Banned
Speaking of council elections the LibDems were beaten by the BNP *and* the English Democrats in Salford yesterday.......
http://conservativehome.blogs.com/l...cil-byelection-results-from-yesterday.html#tp
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
duffed by the Greens in Cardiff too
'All the polls show Labour winning with a big majority, so why would Cameron call an election?
All in all, very sad but predictable in Barnsley, given the apathy and rage about the state our economy has been left in: completely dependent on public and consumer debt in order to grow, with no effective private sector to speak of in Northern cities. No wonder no-one is voting for us – they can’t imagine an alternative to living off the state in one way or another. The saddest thing is that, to its core voters, Labour is blameless. Even last night I heard Margaret Beckett spinning the usual lie about it being all due to the economic downturn and nothing to do with Labour. It made me so angry I had to switch of the telly.
It shows we have a huge mountain to climb economically and politically to rescue this country from Labour’s mess and comparatively little time in which to do it.'
from Lib Dem Voice blog, delusional...
All in all, very sad but predictable in Barnsley, given the apathy and rage about the state our economy has been left in: completely dependent on public and consumer debt in order to grow, with no effective private sector to speak of in Northern cities. No wonder no-one is voting for us – they can’t imagine an alternative to living off the state in one way or another. The saddest thing is that, to its core voters, Labour is blameless. Even last night I heard Margaret Beckett spinning the usual lie about it being all due to the economic downturn and nothing to do with Labour. It made me so angry I had to switch of the telly.
It shows we have a huge mountain to climb economically and politically to rescue this country from Labour’s mess and comparatively little time in which to do it.'
from Lib Dem Voice blog, delusional...
Steel Icarus
we move
What a fucking pranny.
Plumdaff
joy in people
Patronising, anti-Northern neo-liberal horseshit. Just going to make it all the sweeter when they start getting wiped out nationally.
At least now they're open about despising the working class.
does he want a fight?
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
whattacompleteWANKER!!!
here's a leaflet from his last campaign (at the general election i guess)
http://www.electionleaflets.org/full.php?q=4379#l10691
http://www.electionleaflets.org/full.php?q=4379#l10691
Augie March
blahem
I suspect that they expected a drop-off of some kind, but this kind of result has really got to be a kick to Cleggo's balls if he had any.
ferrelhadley
There is no love between us anymore.
Parties in government always do badly in by elections but come the general election there is a big push factor for their base to get out and vote, they may not like their parties policies in government but they do not want the other side in power.
That push is likely to be largely absent for the lib dems. They have lost the pull of being an alternative to the two main parties something attractive and positive for voters to vote for but no longer have the push of keeping the tories out.
This by election looks like their loyal core in the constituancy. I am not seeing many reasons for any others to get out and vote for them in a general election....
That push is likely to be largely absent for the lib dems. They have lost the pull of being an alternative to the two main parties something attractive and positive for voters to vote for but no longer have the push of keeping the tories out.
This by election looks like their loyal core in the constituancy. I am not seeing many reasons for any others to get out and vote for them in a general election....
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Chance for the lib-dems to do even worse than the Barnsley 4% coming up pretty soon in Leicester South - safe labour seat, 14% of the electorate in full time education, tories and lib-dems neck and neck so no tactical voting to prop either one up, UKIP and BNP both have presence to soak up lib-dem and tory dissidents...
Hopefully the Greens will be running as well, so they can cream off the liberal left voters who would rather not go back to Labour just yet.
they lost in barnsley because people in barnsley are racist apparantly
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1363388/What-like-despised-man-town-political-correctness-forgot-come-SIXTH-election.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Carman (former NF member) is very angry because the BNP have beaten him the two times he's stood for election. The New Statesman oddly mirrored this idea that it's all the far-rights fault as well.
I didn't think it was possible for me to despise Liberals more than I already do but that article has upped the ante - working class people from Barnsley abuse him for his party getting into bed with the same Tories who destoryed their town and that means they're all far-right racists. The man is slime like every other Lib Dem.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
If he hates them so much what the fuck is he doing trying to represent them? When he obviously doesn't give a fuck about them.
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
And since when have the lib-dems had any significent support from black and Asian communities?
And no-body seem to have told him that the BNP vote share was down.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
ferrelhadley
There is no love between us anymore.
The Mail must really hate the liberals to have printed that.
Many people in Sheffield Hallam likely to read the Mail or work with people who do?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Seriously?
Yep. Millionaire Lib-dem Dominic Carman is a former NF member. He had no ideological commitment though (he claims), he merely joined as protest at what he saw as mainstream politicians ignoring what he thought were key issues. I wonder why he doesn't apply that sort of insight to the BNP vote.
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