Letters to Clegg...

[bezzer]

Dear Nick Clegg

If you form a coalition government with the Tories then it just goes to show what a farce our political process has become. How can a pro European party join with these right wing fanatics? and i have yet to meet a liberal Democrat who is not to the left of New Labour... feeling isolated now? wait until the next general election... if you do not form a coalition government with labour your political party will decline as your core supporters finally lose their voice and the political landscape in the country takes a nasty lurch to the right... i am not a nationalist...but even i understand that this is not in the national interest!

However, you really need to understand the political and indeed the legal interests of May the 6th 2010. At present the Murdock media is being white washed with hollow jingoistic spin about forming a strong government on all sides…is the UK really under siege? Or is this just the last chuck of the dice from a desperate Tory party that has lacked any type of substance apart from a desire to gain power and keep power? They have no values only self-interest … the government they would form is moribund. There simplistic endemic mentality has already proven they are a plump and easy target on the European and international stage… they are an absolute liability if anything.

George Osborne as chancellor of the exchequer! Does this bode well in the mind of the average Liberal Democrat voter? “get real” Nick, he is child and hier to Thatcherism. You have a legal obligation to look closely at the people who voted for you in this election and not to reinforce the dysfunctional first past the post Victorian voting system by giving it further legal legitimacy and forming a Tory anti European pro war government … and who knows… it might turn out best for the national interest?

If you are serious about proportional representation and taking the real (legitimate) narrative of this election…then you know what must be done... time to show some steal.

https://www.libdems.org.uk/contact.aspx

 

[lopsidedbunny]

I did one a little less and more with a I hope he read them before tonight.

 

[Sgt Howie]

Who could ever have imagined he would do this.

 

[Dillinger4]

Dear cunt

fuck off

Yours truly

 

[DotCommunist]

Dear Nick,

Kill yourself you grasping cunt, I despise you and all that you represent as a power hungry unprincipled wanker. Seriously, take your own life. I think you represent all that is despicable and flawed in the modern political class. When Louis Theroux was fagging for you at your very expensive private school did you have him nosh you off?

You disgusting little man. How dare you sell out your own voting block just to cosy up to the tory party. Who the suffering fuck do you think you are, Obama? Do the decent thing. Take yourself round the back of the shed with a pistol and sort it out. You disgust me more than the forces of darkness themselves and as such I feel your ontinued existence on this planet must come to a swift end. Fuck the fuck off

yours sincerely

DotCommie

 

[stethoscope]

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[ska invita]

You fucking neo-liberal cunt. You're so desperate to gain some foothold into power that you'll snuggle upto the Tories even if it means upsetting your own grassroots membership. L

Steph = do you not see that New Labour are the ultiamte Neo Liberal party, out torying the toryies in privatising the public sector and basing the economy onthe markets, who have relied on power from Tory voters for the last 13 years?

Thank god many on the left can see you for what you are, and have never bought into it.

judge them on what they do, not on the history books

 

[Sgt Howie]

Dear Lib Dem "left" cheerleaders,

Bet you're feeling a bit fucking stupid now, eh? Just don't say you weren't warned.

TTFN,

Sgt Howie

 

[butchersapron]

Steph = do you not see that New Labour are the ultiamte Neo Liberal party, out torying the toryies in privatising the public sector and basing the economy onthe markets, who have relied on power from Tory voters for the last 13 years?

Thank god many on the left can see you for what you are, and have never bought into it.

Do you not see the gaping contradiction here of you going around the boards supporting the lib-dems arguing that there'll not be a lib/con coalition because there's too many serious principled differences between the two parties - but that there definitely will be lib/lab coalition because of their substantial long-running similarities and then posting the above. You've just trapped yourself beautifully.

 

[Teaboy]

I'm going to keep on saying this. There will be no lib / con coalition in any meaningful way.

 

[Badger Kitten]

Dear Nick
It's a shame that people can't see what this is, a negotiation, with carefully and inevitably choreographed steps. They actually think, some of them, that you are going to get in bed with the Tories. They should calm down. There is no way that you will do this because your party and the Tories are ideologically miles apart on most things: but you do have to go through the motions because of the Lib commitment to direct democracy and voteshare/voiceshare. Cameron has to try to woo you because he's fucked without a majority and he knows it, plus he needs to look like he's making an effort. In fact, he looks kind of desperate, as well he might, with the right wing rump of his party already turning against him in fury for not sealing the deal.

And it's all a charade.

By the end of next week you will have set up a coalition with Labour, having won your key demands: the big two being Gordon Brown's resignation and a PR referendum. Then you and Labour as a 'progressive alliance' will settle back and watch a minority, hugely unpopular Government implode and fail.

It's a shame people can't see this but never mind, that's politics and a 24 hour news cycle which likes drama.

It's a grubby game, politics, and I personally am pleased that no party won a mandate so the worst idealogical excesses of each will be curbed by the need to thrash out compromises.

But I hope you can get on with it without too much grandstanding, that all 3 parties learn some valuable lessons in humility and that this year is over quickly.

Cheers

BK

 

[butchersapron]

What is this drivel i've seen twice today about the lib-dems supporting direct democracy. They don't. They're committed to a system of representative democracy and have been since their formation.

 

[stethoscope]

Steph = do you not see that New Labour are the ultiamte Neo Liberal party, out torying the toryies in privatising the public sector and basing the economy onthe markets, who have relied on power from Tory voters for the last 13 years?

Thank god many on the left can see you for what you are, and have never bought into it.

Given that I hate the neo-libbing of the Labour party too and didn't vote for them, I'm not sure what you're expecting me to say really ska. All I know is that they're not as Tory as the Tories (all this 'moving to centrist ground', 'people power' is over-played). Only thing I can agree with them on is the scrapping of ID cards.

If you voted Lib Dem ska, you're probably going to end up aiding the Tories in the process. If I was Lib Dem supporter, I'd be furious.

 

[Fullyplumped]

Dear Nick

[...what she said...]

Cheers

BK

I think that's exactly right. You tell him I said so.

 

[gabi]

If u want to send your message to the snake, then heres the link

https://www.libdems.org.uk/contact.aspx

 

[stethoscope]

You've got more faith in the Lib Dem leaderships motives than I, BK! I personally think it would have been better for the Lib Dems to have let the Tories stew, because I really don't believe that the Tories will bend-over that much to the level that the Libs really want.

 

[Corax]

It doesn't matter a toss. We'll have another GE within a year - any coalition will only be a temporary thing. If that's what it takes to get PR (of some sort, even a shit one) onto the books, then fine, whatever.

Looking unlikely atm anyhow given Callmedave's statement. Lib/Lab coalition looking more likely imo. The Murdoch press'll love that.

 

[gabi]

Either way, Clegg's temporarily fucked the economy again. If he had any sense of honour or responsibility he'd be siding with Labour, removing Brown, yes but keeping Darling in his job.

The FTSE went nuts today. We dont need this.

 

[Corax]

The FTSE went nuts today. We dont need this.

Didn't notice a thing tbh. Buses were running and everything.

 

[editor]

I'd just mail him this.

 

[stethoscope]

Do Lib Dems supporters really see any sort of attempt by the Lib leadership to come to an agreement with the Tories as an actual beneficial outcome from this election? Surely those that are passionate about the Lib Dems and what they stand for would be up in arms for a party that is so ideologically opposed to the Tories historically (and also what the Tories think is the best course for the future of the country) to not touch them whatsoever?

They've painted themselves as being 'radical' and different - the real change. And what?


My apologies for my first venting post above - just so increasingly despairing that our political system revolves around 3 neolib parties that just seem to increasingly lack any principles anymore

 

[Sgt Howie]

Vote Lib Dem to keep the Tories out and then let the Tories in again.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Cunt in being a cunt shocker, readallaboutit.

 

[Corax]

Do Lib Dems supporters really see any sort of attempt by the Lib leadership to come to an agreement with the Tories as an actual beneficial outcome from this election? Surely those that are passionate about the Lib Dems and what they stand for would be up in arms for a party that is so ideologically opposed to the Tories historically (and also what the Tories think is the best course for the future of the country) to not touch them whatsoever?

They've painted themselves as being 'radical' and different - the real change. And what?


My apologies for my first venting post above - just so increasingly despairing that our political system revolves around 3 neolib parties that just seem to increasingly lack any principles anymore

Like I said before, we'll have another GE in 12 months or less, so why give a fuck about a temporary alliance of convenience?

 

[elbows]

lol #dontdoitnick is trending on twitter, as if that will make a difference.

 

[stethoscope]

Like I said before, we'll have another GE in 12 months or less, so why give a fuck about a temporary alliance of convenience?

Because in regards to say economic, cutting public spending, and other such policies, it might seem like a 'temporary alliance of convenience' for some, but it can potentially have quite a lot of impact on people even within 6-12 months.

 

[elbows]

The unfolding global financial crisis part 2 may encourage them to make a deal more quickly than would otherwise have been the case.

If a deal doesnt happen it will likely be down to to some silly failures to agree rather than some fundamental ideological principal, but I could be wrong.

 

[weltweit]

Dear Nick,

You only want PR so you can always be the kingmaker.

The British electorate are not that stupid, you will lose any referendum you put before us.

On your bike!

wetweit

 

[Corax]

Because in regards to say economic, cutting public spending, and other such policies, it might seem like a 'temporary alliance of convenience' for some, but it can potentially have quite a lot of impact on people even within 6-12 months.

As I work in the NHS, 'cutting public spending' is the only threat I see there. I'd be very happy to see the market collapse entirely. Sure, some would suffer re pensions and so on, but the vast majority that would feel the effect are those involved with the markets. I don't even know anyone who's got enough spare to buy shares, let alone have them myself. I'd like nothing better than to see the whole system crash to the ground and burn.

In any case, I can't see any kind of major change like you suggest happening without a proper mandate, which they haven't got. Until the re-run, the government (of whatever blend) will be an administration rather than a legislature.

 

[Open Sauce]

Dear Nick,

Please join the Tories, your party have never stood for anything and you are just a polished veneer on top of a turd. Join the Tories and any of your support either from the "vote libdem to keep the Tories out" or "libdem are left of labour" will realise their mistake. Join lib dem and in the meantime, with your once misguided supporters from the left will need somewhere to go, there will be a vacuum on the left and with a bit of luck, we can have our Labour party back.