Lets all go hunting. In Epping Forest?

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Yep, live in the London area and you fancy a quick hunt? Why not join a local club and go deer stalking in Epping Forest!

A decision to allow hunters to slaughter deer in an ancient London woodland has sparked outrage

 

[Brainaddict]

One of those stories where the key info (i.e. the facts rather than the headline) are in the final paragraph:

A spokesperson for the City of London Corporation said: “Deer within Epping Forest are not subject to a cull.

“The private contractor only has a license to carry out deer population control on the Buffer Lands, 1700 acres of farmland and woodland around the Forest.

“This takes place across strictly controlled areas of the Buffer Land at very specific periods prescribed by law.”

Deer do a lot of damage to woodlands - it's very difficult to have any kind of rich ecosystem with too many of them around. My preferred option is the reintroduction of wolves and lynxes, but since people seem bothered by the reintroduction of native animals that are little or no threat to humans, hunting is the option landowners end up with.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Lots of deer in Epping forest, I think the Muntjacks (sp) are becoming a bit of a pest as they nom saplings.

Anyway, there are plenty of people in Epping forest with guns already. usually at night, with shovels and torches

 

[dessiato]

Will the price of venison come down with increased supply?

 

[Brainaddict]

Will the price of venison come down with increased supply?

I don't expect it will make much difference. Deer are always being culled all over the country. I get the impression most hunters keep the meat themselves rather than making it commercially available.

 

[weltweit]

I stalked a herd of deer in Epping forest, I used to live near there. They (the herd) were a special thing but with 30-40 eyes and noses looking out for me I never managed to get close-up with them. I was stalking them with a camera though.

 

[chilango]

My preferred option is the reintroduction of wolves and lynxes.

This. Very much this.

There's a lot of focus on Scotland for re-introduction, but the South East has enough deer, and wolves (I dunno about lynxes) are certainly adaptable enough to find a home in the landscape. Won't happen though. Best hope is for rapid expansion of Scottish populations after they finally get re-introduced there. Given the speed the French wolf populations have travelled, it might be quicker than we think.

 

[Callie]

Will the price of venison come down with increased supply?

Hahahahahahaha

 

[weltweit]

Actually, eyes, nose and ears. Deer have very good hearing.

There are Muntjak in Epping Forest, small and make a fearsome roar if disturbed with their young.

 

[Orang Utan]

Muntjack must be the raviest animals in the world

 

[Pickman's model]

Muntjack must be the raviest animals in the world

wrong

 

[weltweit]

 

[not-bono-ever]

Thy are Viet IIRC and only started appearing a couple of decades ago after some got loose were dumped by the owners

 

[Pickman's model]

Thy are Viet IIRC and only started appearing a couple of decades ago after some got loose were dumped by the owners

i hope no one puts out punji stick traps for these hunters

 

[not-bono-ever]

So we have some viets hiding in the forest, living off the land and responsible for repeated low level annoyance to the locals. and we are going to use all our modern technology, money and weaponry to get rid of them. I can see no historical precedent at all in this issue. nothing at all to suggest it will fail. nope.

 

[dylanredefined]

So we have some viets hiding in the forest, living off the land and responsible for repeated low level annoyance to the locals. and we are going to use all our modern technology, money and weaponry to get rid of them. I can see no historical precedent at all in this issue. nothing at all to suggest it will fail. nope.

You can't hunt those bastard muntjacs with anything other than rifles. Local range warden had a small holding ravaged by those things hated the things with a vengeance. Got to listen to a rant about them.

 

[not-bono-ever]

helicopters, free fire zones, napalm, M16's, white phosphorous and the Doors will sort them out. if not, then agent orange is the answer ( *only we can prevent forests* as the motto went)

 

[Artaxerxes]

Lots of deer in Epping forest, I think the Muntjacks (sp) are becoming a bit of a pest as they nom saplings.

Anyway, there are plenty of people in Epping forest with guns already. usually at night, with shovels and torches

Or hunting the deer, met an old guy who lives in the forest (he's 70+, chooses to live in the forest, think he's a ex-army) and he's full of tales of arseholes stalking deer at night, hiding in trees, capping the things.



Inevitable around that area.

I stalked a herd of deer in Epping forest, I used to live near there. They (the herd) were a special thing but with 30-40 eyes and noses looking out for me I never managed to get close-up with them. I was stalking them with a camera though.

They are an absolute bitch to catch for pictures, I've almost hit one with my bike on at least 3 occasions as I'm going fast enough for em not to spot me, and once I got lucky enough to almost trip over a muntjac.

You need to know where they like to go and wait there under cover for bloody hours.

 

[weltweit]

I investigated ways to get close, especially to stags, and it seems a hide and liberal spillings of female deer pheromones are preferred methods by US photographers.

 

[eoin_k]

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[eoin_k]

helicopters, free fire zones, napalm, M16's, white phosphorous and the Doors will sort them out. if not, then agent orange is the answer ( *only we can prevent forests* as the motto went)

We'll have to destroy the forest in order to save it.

 

[Libertad]

So we have some viets hiding in the forest, living off the land and responsible for repeated low level annoyance to the locals. and we are going to use all our modern technology, money and weaponry to get rid of them. I can see no historical precedent at all in this issue. nothing at all to suggest it will fail. nope.

Deer on bicycles.

 

[lizzieloo]

You just solved a mystery, I've been hearing this sound for months at night, knew it wasn't foxes, had no idea what it was

 

[Pickman's model]

helicopters, free fire zones, napalm, M16's, white phosphorous and the Doors will sort them out. if not, then agent orange is the answer ( *only we can prevent forests* as the motto went)

 

[not-bono-ever]

It is a real shame that the only person left in the world who would be able to slaughter these vermin deer efficiently and in large numbers died this week.

Animal Slaughtering old toff dead

if only she could have eked another year or so out of her life, we would not now lie in our beds and worry about muntjak inspired terrors

 

[krtek a houby]

helicopters, free fire zones, napalm, M16's, white phosphorous and the Doors will sort them out. if not, then agent orange is the answer ( *only we can prevent forests* as the motto went)

 

[joustmaster]

Driving on the M25 will now have the added danger of stray bullets.

I'd like to hunt a deer though.

 

[not-bono-ever]

I have heard that you can pay to shoot a deer with an AK47 in Epping forest these days

 

[chilango]

You sometimes see muntjac deer in Urban Reading (though one established urban population seems to have been wiped out after dogs were set on some of them), Roe and Fallow deer as well in the 'burbs plus Red Deer in the surrounding countryside.

It's a bit weird wandering around a pretty dull sprawling town and seeing deer on the ground and Red Kites in the sky when growing up in rural Wales I saw none of either.

 

[telbert]

Muntjac are all over the place. I was driving back through Harold Hill last year about 10 of clock at night and had one bound across the road in front of me.Thought it was gonna end up through the fucking windscreen.
Another time a couple of years ago I was mushrooming near North Weald and was walking really slowly with my eyes to the ground constantly for about 10 minutes .looking up suddenly there was a huge fucking Fallow about 5 foot in front of just looking at me with steam coming out of its fucking nose as it was breathing, and about 5 or 6 does behind it.It just fucking stood there as I backed away slowly then it fucked of with the does in tow.I was shitting myself.