Labour leadership

[SpookyFrank]

Brilliant logic - 'I deeply regret allowing people to express a choice. My defence is that when I gave them permission to vote for other candidates it was an empty gesture and I didn't think they'd actually do it'.

And she's happy to say all this in public. Astonishing.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Given that there are a lot more workers than bosses, it stands to reason that a party for the workers should always win in a general election. If Labour truly were a party for the workers, well could they be, perhaps with someone like Corbyn?

He doesn't have enough support from the Labour benches, even if he wins the leadership the rest of the parliamentary party would sooner sabotage the party completely than let Corbyn stand as leader in a general election. Any kind of popular victory for the left would invalidate the entire blairite project and the blairites know this all too well.

Still, at least this leadership election is giving the blairites plenty of rope with which to hang themselves. Openly threatening to defy the results of a democratic election, encouraging everyone to gang up on Corbyn and other such school playground tactics.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Big gun time lol. Tony B in the house

http://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...burnham-chuka-umunna-tony-blair-yvette-cooper

Presmuably he made his statement during one of those rare moments when his mouth was not filled with some dictator's balls.

 

[SpookyFrank]

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[weltweit]

He doesn't have enough support from the Labour benches, even if he wins the leadership the rest of the parliamentary party would sooner sabotage the party completely than let Corbyn stand as leader in a general election. Any kind of popular victory for the left would invalidate the entire blairite project and the blairites know this all too well.
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You are saying that even if Corbyn wins the leadership election he won't be permitted to serve as leader?

 

[SpookyFrank]

You are saying that even if Corbyn wins the leadership election he won't be permitted to serve as leader?

Plenty of people in the Labour party are already bragging about how they'd have him out before christmas if he won.

 

[weltweit]

Plenty of people in the Labour party are already bragging about how they'd have him out before christmas if he won.

Meaning presumably that there would have to be another leadership election?

 

[Looby]

I see John Mcdonnell is a key figure in Jeremy's team, wonder how he feels, he could easily have been the contender.

He tried last time and didn't get the nominations iirc.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Meaning presumably that there would have to be another leadership election?

Yes. Although it's not clear why the public should be expected to bother voting in a second leadership election if the results of the first one were cast aside so readily.

 

[youngian]

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...emy-corbyn-labour-hustings-lbc_n_7851474.html
Labour leadership candidates were asked in this LBC debate if they'd taken drugs, Liz Kendall claims she last had a toke at uni but not since. Judging by her squirming body language she's not a skilled liar. Which is not a good trait for a prime minister. Corbyn however has never taken drugs, which is more than you can say for anyone who thinks he'll be PM one day.

 

[weltweit]

Yes. Although it's not clear why the public should be expected to bother voting in a second leadership election if the results of the first one were cast aside so readily.

I think it is silly. If Corbyn is elected, that is that, he has been elected and they should live with it!

 

[gimesumtruf]

I can't cope with this, there are to many Tories in the Labour party.

 

[Sprocket.]

So Cooper and Kendall will refuse a place in the Shadow Cabinet if Corbyn wins the leadership!
So what was all the abstaining about the other day?
I understood all those who abstained did so to show how united the party was, guess that was pants too!
''I'll do this for the party, I'll do that for the party, as long Corbyn isn't in charge!''

How will Unite feel now, back Corbyn and get no support from the rest of the parliamentary labour party?

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Hmmm

 

[Louis MacNeice]

So Cooper and Kendall will refuse a place in the Shadow Cabinet if Corbyn wins the leadership!
So what was all the abstaining about the other day?
I understood all those who abstained did so to show how united the party was, guess that was pants too!
''I'll do this for the party, I'll do that for the party, as long Corbyn isn't in charge!''

How will Unite feel now, back Corbyn and get no support from the rest of the parliamentary labour party?

Corbyn was meant to be a joke candidate and proof positive that Labour was safe...safe for capital. He has shown himself to be resonant rather than risible; agreed with not laughed at. But the imperative for Labour to show itself as an absolutely trustworthy (i.e. capital friendly) potential party of government remains. So social democrat Corbyn cannot be allowed success, let alone allowed to succeed. This is why Blair traduces social democracy and demands that any 'socialist heart' left in the Labour party is ripped out. This is why Cooper and Kendall publicly state they won't serve in a Corbyn cabinet. This is why a humiliated Beckett admits to being a 'moron'. They are all shouting 'it's ok...we get it...we'll behave and we'll make sure the party does to'.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[brogdale]

Just occasionally the right can produce something quite amusing...

 

[ska invita]

whats the yellow star thing?

 

[brogdale]

whats the yellow star thing?

D/K

 

[brogdale]

Corbyn was meant to be a joke candidate and proof positive that Labour was safe...safe for capital. He has shown himself to be resonant rather than risible; agreed with not laughed at. But the imperative for Labour to show itself as an absolutely trustworthy (i.e. capital friendly) potential party of government remains. So social democrat Corbyn cannot be allowed success, let alone allowed to succeed. This is why Blair traduces social democracy and demands that any 'socialist heart' left in the Labour party is ripped out. This is why Cooper and Kendall publicly state they won't serve in a Corbyn cabinet. This is why a humiliated Beckett admits to being a 'moron'. They are all shouting 'it's ok...we get it...we'll behave and we'll make sure the party does to'.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

Spot-on.
I believe the phrase is 'market compliant'.

 

[Lord Camomile]

whats the yellow star thing?

D/K

It's a football mascot. I'm not sure of its pertinence here, aside from the fact it's a little ridiculous.

e2a: Partick Thistle, to be precise.

 

[Sue]

Anyone hear Yvette Cooper on the Today programme this morning? Appalling doesn't begin to describe it.

 

[brogdale]

It's a football mascot. I'm not sure of its pertinence here, aside from the fact it's a little ridiculous.

e2a: Partick Thistle, to be precise.

Broon's team?

 

[JTG]

Broon's team?

No, he supports Raith Rovers

 

[ska invita]

I'm not sure of its pertinence here, aside from the fact it's a little ridiculous.

and that its "absolutely terrifying." i guess
I like it though

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Just occasionally the right can produce something quite amusing...

Yeah these are... a thing

 

[killer b]

Just occasionally the right can produce something quite amusing...

The chuckle brothers are missing.

 

[brogdale]

The chuckle brothers are missing.

So is Corbyn's minister for Women...although she's in the states atm

 

[rutabowa]

i'm beginning to think the whole thing was cleverly plotted by the labour party to get corbyn in.

It's a football mascot. I'm not sure of its pertinence here, aside from the fact it's a little ridiculous.

e2a: Partick Thistle, to be precise.

guess it's an SNP ref?

 

[SpookyFrank]

Yeah these are... a thing

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Never had Wario down as a communist, but I guess it's obvious from the moustache now I think about it.

 

[Sprocket.]

Never had Wario down as a communist, but I guess it's obvious from the moustache now I think about it.

It's a Gramsci caricature.