Labour leadership

[kebabking]

I think 2 things are really going to be the stretching point for Labour, thats Trident and the past record on Northern Ireland...

i don't think NI will have any effect whatsoever - though 'helpful' tweets congratulating Corbyn from Gerry and Martin will be reproduced ad nauseum and won't do anything for his acceptability - the crux issues within Labour will be foreign affairs and defence, because its simply not going to be possible to have a policy that a straight majority of Labour MP's will hold to that comes within a million miles of what Corbyn/McDonnell will accept. the EU ref might well end up as damaging to labour discipline as it will to the tories, there'll be a Syria vote, SDSR15/16, at least one more Trident vote, and then a manifesto in 2020 that either 70% of Labour MP's will disown, or that ignores Corbyns views - in which case, why vote for him..

you can ask John Major about the effect of a widespread party disunity on a party's election chances...

 

[SpookyFrank]

Labour narrowing the Tory poll lead already

Impossible. Labour are unelectable now. High priestess Toynbee said so.

 

[andysays]

Angela Eagle is doing an excellent job with the analysis of the Trades Union bill tearing it apart paragraph by paragraph. The carefully orchestrated interventions from the Labour benches are superb and the Tories do seem to be on the back foot. I am enjoying this a lot. What a pity it will not affect the final vote.

Better (way better) than the craven performance of even a month or so ago.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

It does feel like a coup.

 

[DotCommunist]

smartest I've seen corbyn there, tie and everyting. Mr Bic is still not his friend tho clearly, and I'm cool with that

 

[Diamond]

smartest I've seen corbyn there, tie and everyting. Mr Bic is still not his friend tho clearly, and I'm cool with that

Bit loose on the tie front to be frank.

Didn't Mandelson have a go at Brown one time for always getting his tie knot wrong?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

i don't think NI will have any effect whatsoever - though 'helpful' tweets congratulating Corbyn from Gerry and Martin will be reproduced ad nauseum and won't do anything for his acceptability - the crux issues within Labour will be foreign affairs and defence, because its simply not going to be possible to have a policy that a straight majority of Labour MP's will hold to that comes within a million miles of what Corbyn/McDonnell will accept. the EU ref might well end up as damaging to labour discipline as it will to the tories, there'll be a Syria vote, SDSR15/16, at least one more Trident vote, and then a manifesto in 2020 that either 70% of Labour MP's will disown, or that ignores Corbyns views - in which case, why vote for him..

you can ask John Major about the effect of a widespread party disunity on a party's election chances...

This genuinely puzzles me. Trident is an irrational thing to want. Strikes me as an emperor's new clothes situation where it just needs someone to point out its idiocy. Will there really be droves of Lab MPs staking their reputations (such as they may be) on backing Trident?

 

[DotCommunist]

I wouldn't know, I struggle to get a windsor correct

 

[Pickman's model]

Bit loose on the tie front to be frank.

Didn't Mandelson have a go at Brown one time for always getting his tie knot wrong?

does anyone give a fuck?

 

[SpookyFrank]

It does feel like a coup.

Nice to see Diane enjoying her first front-bench nap in a few years.

 

[Artaxerxes]

This genuinely puzzles me. Trident is an irrational thing to want. Strikes me as an emperor's new clothes situation where it just needs someone to point out its idiocy. Will there really be droves of Lab MPs staking their reputations (such as they may be) on backing Trident?

Its an insane thing to think we need considering how close we are to the US and Europe, a far better idea for a deterrent would be an EU backed one, say UK, Germany, France with maybe a couple of others contributing.

Also, for once I have read the comments in a DM article without wanting to shoot myself or others. Its a sign of the end times and I look forward to seeing the four horsemen.

ANDREW PIERCE: How Corbyn has cost us all £3m... so far

 

[SpookyFrank]

Bit loose on the tie front to be frank.

David Cameron knows how to tie a tie properly, and he's a sociopath.

 

[Artaxerxes]

David Cameron knows how to tie a tie properly, and he's a sociopath.

And tbf, its not like he's ever done much else in his life.

 

[J Ed]

Bit loose on the tie front to be frank.

#stuffposhpeopleactuallycareabout

 

[killer b]

You know anyone who wants to can comment on a DM article yeah? You don't have to be a subscriber.

 

[SpookyFrank]

ANDREW PIERCE: How Corbyn has cost us all £3m... so far

By...claiming his salary! The very bastard, how dare he

I bet his expenses bill is massive too. What's that? Lowest expenses claims in the entire HoC? But if we lump in the cost of his office and his staff then it's still loads of money.

I understand he also breathes oxygen, oxygen that mght otherwise be breathed by decent, hardworking, spittle-flecked Daily Mail hatemongers.

 

[Pickman's model]

David Cameron knows how to tie a tie properly, and he's a sociopath.

sam cam can. daft dave can't.

 

[Artaxerxes]

You know anyone who wants to can comment on a DM article yeah? You don't have to be a subscriber.

Yes but normally they are full of poisonous shite.

Daily Mail Comments (@BestoftheMail) on Twitter

 

[J Ed]

 

[killer b]

Yes but normally they are full of poisonous shite.

Daily Mail Comments (@BestoftheMail) on Twitter

that's certainly true. What do you think's happened here then? Do you think there's a sea change in the views of the readers of the daily mail? or perhaps it might be just that some bored left wingers, astonished by an article that's insane even by the mail's standards, have taken to their comments section for an afternoon's entertainment?

 

[Hocus Eye.]

I think posters on this forum spend too much time commenting on the Daily Mail. We all know that it is bonkers, if you want to read it that's your choice but don't re-publish its content here, it doesn't need the publicity.

 

[DotCommunist]

I think posters on this forum spend too much time commenting on the Daily Mail. We all know that it is bonkers, if you want to read it that's your choice but don't re-publish its content here, it doesn't need the publicity.

what the fuck is this?! in the new age of C-Byn we can no longer offer mild scolding. Let me re-phrase that in line with this era of full communism

'You twats need to stop looking at the daily mail cos its only going to cause you an embolism. Sort it out maggots, lest I have to take my belt off'

*shakes fist*

 

[Mr Moose]

What, instead of just having them murdered?

 

[killer b]

I think posters on this forum spend too much time commenting on the Daily Mail. We all know that it is bonkers, if you want to read it that's your choice but don't re-publish its content here, it doesn't need the publicity.

quite.

 

[DotCommunist]

I wonder how many months it will take me to stop laughing it up. If the press comply I think I have about four solid years of pisstaking in me here

 

[eoin_k]

So Grauniad/twitter reporting fire at Labour offices... interesting timing.

 

[J Ed]

So Grauniad/twitter reporting fire at Labour offices... interesting timing.

Good thing the FBU is thinking about re-affiliating...

 

[killer b]

some blairite spad destroying evidence no doubt.

 

[SpookyFrank]

So Grauniad/twitter reporting fire at Labour offices... interesting timing.

Maybe some kind-hearted and public-spirited citizen has taken it upon themselves to neutralise the threat posed to our security by a democratically elected oppoisition party.

 

[DotCommunist]

someone emptied the ashtray into the bin without checking for live ones I recon