Labour leadership

[killer b]

Fucking sellout bastard Corbyn

48 hours. Not bad.

 

[kebabking]

What do we think? Are there enough remnants of the last few front benches (opposition and govt) for any possibility of 'uniting the party' to be realistic? Burnham's probably a good call and, to be fair, one of the less repellent figures of the party's recent past...

i don't think Burnham is a 'flag' in this matter - his flip-flopping on policy between Blair and Brown, and then Miliband, and then the start of the leadership campaign, and then once Corbyn started making the running in the leadership campaign, suggests that Burham - like all used car salesmen - will say or think whatever he thinks people what him to say or think. he's not a 'moderate' brought into the big tent, he's a ventriloquists doll.

Maria Eagle at Defence, and Veron Croker at NI are perhaps better examples. how long they stay, given the big defence/FP issues coming in the next two years or so, will be illustrative.

 

[Sprocket.]

Just heard Tom Cheal (I think) talking to Stephen Kinnock about Corbyn, Kinnock jnr saying Militant Tendency, that was then this is now sort of response.
Then Tom Cheal says ( slight paraphrase)
'There is Stephen Kinnock whose father Neil booted out militant tendency in the early nineties and paved the way for Blair's victory in 97'

OMG

 

[marty21]

There has been a lot of chatter on twitter about the lack of female representation in the big shadow cabinet jobs - which is fair enough - but as far as I can tell at least 6 female Labour MPs have refused to serve under Corbyn.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Sigh... going to be a long 5 years, a lot of piss-taking going on at work.

 

[Sprocket.]

There has been a lot of chatter on twitter about the lack of female representation in the big shadow cabinet jobs - which is fair enough - but as far as I can tell at least 6 female Labour MPs have refused to serve under Corbyn.

Maybe he should have forced them with the threat of Gulags and re-education that I am sure will be the next load of bollocks for the twats to spout!

 

[marty21]

Maybe he should have forced them with the threat of Gulags and re-education that I am sure will be the next load of bollocks for the twats to spout!

Who is the Shadow Minister for Gulags and Re-Education btw?

 

[The Octagon]

Who is the Shadow Minister for Gulags and Re-Education btw?

Russell Brand

 

[cesare]

There has been a lot of chatter on twitter about the lack of female representation in the big shadow cabinet jobs - which is fair enough - but as far as I can tell at least 6 female Labour MPs have refused to serve under Corbyn.

BIS, Health, Education and Defence are big roles, aren't they?

 

[DotCommunist]

I've thought of another pro-trident argument from the PD position- why not let the capitalists and betrayers of the working class develop a nuclear weapons platform? Update the old equipment?

That way we'd not have to build a workers bomb but merely expropriate one that has already been built from the SLV stolen from the class in the first place?

 

[redcogs]

Shadow Defence Secretary who voted to retain Trident.

Fucking sellout bastard Corbyn

Who do you want, Ghandi?

 

[marty21]

BIS, Health, Education and Defence are big roles, aren't they?

yep, but the media generally consider Home, Foreign, and Chancellor as the big ones

 

[cesare]

yep, but the media generally consider Home, Foreign, and Chancellor as the big ones

But first ever female Defence, 16 out of 31, and also Yvette Cooper continuing to head up refugee crisis. On balance I think it's pretty balanced given what you said about the numbers of women who deselected themselves.

 

[Sprocket.]

Who is the Shadow Minister for Gulags and Re-Education btw?

Me, be quiet!

 

[belboid]

Who do you want, Ghandi?

van der Lubbe

 

[belboid]

meanwhile, at least Seymour and Friend can keep us amused with their 'its still all shit' position - Pessimism after Corbyn | Salvage

 

[cesare]

meanwhile, at least Seymour and Friend can keep us amused with their 'its still all shit' position - Pessimism after Corbyn | Salvage

"your hope disgusts us"

 

[marty21]

But first ever female Defence, 16 out of 31, and also Yvette Cooper continuing to head up refugee crisis. On balance I think it's pretty balanced given what you said about the numbers of women who deselected themselves.

get on twitter and tell them

 

[redcogs]

The Dutch Guido Fawkes. What a good choice.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Burham - like all used car salesmen - will say or think whatever he thinks people what him to say or think. he's not a 'moderate' brought into the big tent, he's a ventriloquists doll.

I knew I recognised him from somewhere.

 

[cesare]

get on twitter and tell them

You jest

 

[billy_bob]

Who do you want, Ghandi?

That unprincipled cunt?

 

[Idris2002]

meanwhile, at least Seymour and Friend can keep us amused with their 'its still all shit' position - Pessimism after Corbyn | Salvage

Seymour has a friend?

 

[billy_bob]

i don't think Burnham is a 'flag' in this matter - his flip-flopping on policy between Blair and Brown, and then Miliband, and then the start of the leadership campaign, and then once Corbyn started making the running in the leadership campaign, suggests that Burham - like all used car salesmen - will say or think whatever he thinks people what him to say or think. he's not a 'moderate' brought into the big tent, he's a ventriloquists doll.

Maria Eagle at Defence, and Veron Croker at NI are perhaps better examples. how long they stay, given the big defence/FP issues coming in the next two years or so, will be illustrative.

Just to stress, I only said 'less repellent than some' of Burnham: that's about as fulsome as I'm willing to go. I'm not really sure what 'moderate' means in the Labour party context these days - 'whatever'll get us elected' seems to be the new 'centre ground', and to be considered anywhere to the right of that you have to be as rabid and swivel-eyed as Flint.

 

[Vintage Paw]

BIS, Health, Education and Defence are big roles, aren't they?

Plus Angela Eagle is his deputy for taking PMQs when Cameron isn't there.

 

[Vintage Paw]

But first ever female Defence, 16 out of 31, and also Yvette Cooper continuing to head up refugee crisis. On balance I think it's pretty balanced given what you said about the numbers of women who deselected themselves.

It's astonishing the number of right wing white men who suddenly care so very deeply about the rights of women and bme people.

 

[killer b]

meanwhile, at least Seymour and Friend can keep us amused with their 'its still all shit' position - Pessimism after Corbyn | Salvage

this isn't a bad piece, once you get past all the brainy words.

 

[killer b]

He did a piece for jacobin that's pretty good too: https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/09/jeremy-corbyn-labour-benn-kendall-blair-leadership/

 

[free spirit]

There's not been enough laughing at Liz Kendall's 4.5% IMO.

 

[agricola]

There's not been enough laughing at Liz Kendall's 4.5% IMO.

That is because it represents what the majority of the electorate thinks, at least according to the maquisards.