Labour leadership

[The Pale King]

I wanted to see Rushanara Ali in there. She's been a good local M.P, voted the right way on Syria and nominated Corbyn, surprised not to see her in tbh

 

[Sprocket.]

With a majority female shadow cabinet are they about to start claiming that he hates men now?

Of course they will, if Corbyn had a farm full of golden egg laying geese and he gave the proceeds to the NHS, they would moan that he didn't serve roast goose to the poor.

 

[J Ed]

No Diane Abbot then?

e2a: She's been given international development.

Those are just the newest appointments, her appointment was announced earlier

 

[treelover]

How come the parachuted Luciana Berger got a post, Corbyn's followers are not going to be happy with many of these appointments.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Of course they will, if Corbyn had a farm full of golden egg laying geese and he gave the proceeds to the NHS, they would moan that he didn't serve roast goose to the poor.

Analogy of the month

 

[SpookyFrank]

How come the parachuted Luciana Berger got a post, Corbyn's followers are not going to be happy with many of these appointments.

Her name just makes me think of Lucrezia Borgia.

 

[J Ed]

The actual full list:

Leader of the Opposition and Leader of the Labour Party

Jeremy Corbyn MP

Deputy Leader of the Labour Party, Party Chair and Shadow Minister for the Cabinet Office

Tom Watson MP

Shadow First Secretary of State, Shadow Secretary of State for Business, Innovation and Skills

Angela Eagle MP

Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer

John McDonnell MP

Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury

Seema Malhotra MP

Shadow Home Secretary

Andy Burnham MP

Shadow Foreign Secretary

Hilary Benn MP

Opposition Chief Whip

Rosie Winterton MP

Shadow Secretary of State for Health

Heidi Alexander MP

Shadow Secretary of State for Education

Lucy Powell MP

Shadow Secretary of State for Work and Pensions

Owen Smith MP

Shadow Secretary of State for Defence

Maria Eagle MP

Shadow Lord Chancellor, Shadow Secretary of State for Justice

Lord Falconer of Thoroton

Shadow Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government, Shadow Minister for the Constitutional Convention

Jon Trickett MP

Shadow Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change

Lisa Nandy MP

Shadow Leader of the House of Commons

Chris Bryant MP

Shadow Secretary of State for Transport

Lilian Greenwood MP

Shadow Secretary of State for Northern Ireland

Vernon Coaker MP

Shadow Secretary of State for International Development

Diane Abbott MP

Shadow Secretary of State for Scotland

Ian Murray MP

Shadow Secretary of State for Wales

Nia Griffith MP

Shadow Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs

Kerry McCarthy MP

Shadow Minister for Women and Equalities

Kate Green MP

Shadow Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport

Michael Dugher MP

Shadow Minister for Young People and Voter Registration

Gloria De Piero MP

Shadow Minister for Mental Health

Luciana Berger MP

Shadow Leader of the House of Lords

Baroness Smith of Basildon

Lords Chief Whip

Lord Bassam of Brighton

Shadow Attorney General

Catherine McKinnell MP

Shadow Minister without Portfolio

Jonathan Ashworth MP

Shadow Minister for Housing and Planning

John Healey MP

Other Announcements:

Yvette Cooper will continue her work on bringing together councils, faith groups, and community groups to respond to the refugee crisis. She will chair Labour’s task force on refugees.

 

[redsquirrel]

How come the parachuted Luciana Berger got a post, Corbyn's followers are not going to be happy with many of these appointments.

Because he can't just appoint the people that backed him, like it or not the Labour party is a broad church and it would be idiotic of him not to at least try to reach out beyond his 20 supporters in the PLP.

 

[nino_savatte]

Shadow Secretary of State for Defence

Maria Eagle MP

A woman Shadow Defense Secretary. Now there's a first. Hey, Suzanne Moore! Have you seen this?

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

For all those that say there aren't enough birds in the shadow cabinet, I point you to the two eagles and a falconer.

 

[ViolentPanda]

i would agree, but i rather fear that Blairs delusional state means he can't accept it. i've no doubt that people who agree with him have been pleading with him to keep his gob shut for years, but he just can't grip that his words, regardless of what they actually are, just fire up a decent-sized section of the electorate to do precisely the opposite.

he's delusional. he was an excellent politician once, he knew what to say, what not to say, and when to do so. that natural talent doesn't just walk off, it has - imo - been driven out of his mind by whatever coping mechanism he's developed to manage his astonishment at going from the most electorally successful Labour leader ever, to being a revieled creature.

You've just described an actor.

 

[belboid]

How come the parachuted Luciana Berger got a post, Corbyn's followers are not going to be happy with many of these appointments.

somewhat surprising, but she has campaigned around mental health issues a lot, and having that post in a shadow cabinet is pretty fucking good

 

[ViolentPanda]

(over a river )

Blatantly letting people know that he isn't a vampire.

 

[kebabking]

You've just described an actor.

no, an actor is given such lines by a writer, and told when to say them by a director - Blair managed the while, 'walking, talking and chewing gum' stuff on his own.

which, for a politician...

 

[ViolentPanda]

I expect he's delighted that he's under no obligation to give her a job. She's a nasty piece of work and a blatant careerist.

Frankly, after her boasting about how she'd steer Corbyn if she won the deputy-leader election, his advisors would have gone in hard to convince him to leave her out in the cold.

 

[ViolentPanda]

no, an actor is given such lines by a writer, and told when to say them by a director - Blair managed the while, 'walking, talking and chewing gum' stuff on his own.

which, for a politician...

Nope, most of Blair's best moments were scripted, and ruthlessly drilled into him by his press office (a bad habit he learned from Clinton).

 

[treelover]

Owen Smith at DWP, he will be watched closely, can't find too much about his opinions.

 

[kebabking]

Nope, most of Blair's best moments were scripted, and ruthlessly drilled into him by his press office (a bad habit he learned from Clinton).

na, he was better than that - ruthlessly scripted by his press office, made by him in his image, and he did the strategic direction stuff. certainly he put minions to work scripting this or that, but it was Blair who set the objective, what the parameters were, and who either ok'ed what was said or binned it and required a re-write. he was not infalliable, but to claim the whole of his political (in the narrow sense of the word) skill was purely (or even substantially) the work of others is to fall for a characature.

 

[emanymton]

How come the parachuted Luciana Berger got a post, Corbyn's followers are not going to be happy with many of these appointments.

She's Jewish and a woman, so that's 2 for 1 on the Intersectionality bingo card.
But yet fuck's nows how she got in.

 

[emanymton]

somewhat surprising, but she has campaigned around mental health issues a lot, and having that post in a shadow cabinet is pretty fucking good

Bering the only one I have ever encountered in the wild (well an NUS conference I was drafted up to when I was in the SWP) I have a real hatred of her.

 

[J Ed]

Bering the only one I have ever encountered in the wild (well an NUS conference I was drafted up to when I was in the SWP) I have a real hatred of her.

Why?

 

[billy_bob]

Her name just makes me think of Lucrezia Borgia.

The Jewish Chronicle will be along in a minute to accuse you of anti-Semitism.

 

[emanymton]

Why?

I can't even remember probably now.
Mainly around the Israel/Palestinian issue, really pushing the all criticism of Israel is antisemitism line. But everything about her made my skin crawl. I am terrible with names but years latter hers is still clear in my mind and tied directly to hate. It's like an instinctive reaction. It must have been 10 years later when I next heard her name, and I immediately went God I fucking hate her.

 

[SpookyFrank]

The Jewish Chronicle will be along in a minute to accuse you of anti-Semitism.

But Lucrezia Borgia was a catholic

 

[billy_bob]

What do we think? Are there enough remnants of the last few front benches (opposition and govt) for any possibility of 'uniting the party' to be realistic? Burnham's probably a good call and, to be fair, one of the less repellent figures of the party's recent past. Maybe Benn too - despite his last name his politics are pretty solidly New Labour.

 

[teqniq]

Luciana Berger sounds too much like Lucretia Borgia for my liking.

 

[billy_bob]

Luciana Berger sounds too much like Lucretia Borgia for my liking.

It sounds more like Lucretia Borgia to me.

 

[billy_bob]

they would moan that he didn't serve roast goose to the poor.

And if he did, he'd just be confirming that he's a patronising, do-gooding champagne socialist.

 

[belboid]

Shadow Defence Secretary who voted to retain Trident.

Fucking sellout bastard Corbyn

 

[DotCommunist]

Benn says Labour ruling out backing an out vote in EU referendum - Politics live



LOL... Britain invade Russia. On another fucking planet.

Robert Silverburg could write the alt. history. It'd have to start with the horrible premise that the empire never died, there was no world wars and british dominance grew swollen to insane hieghts, cowed the US into a status of semi autonomus vassal state. Even then, its still wouldn't be going to be a walkover.