Labour leadership

[stethoscope]

Fuck off Dwiamond.

 

[greenfield]

Even a couple of days later, and despite the evident success of Corbyn's campaign, taking a step back, this all doesn't really make sense to me...

The wrong Miliband lead to Corbyn and then almost certainly to electoral suicide.

Fair enough - Corbyn won a democratic landlside in the Labour movement but the suggestion that he might persuade the wider franchise to vote for him on his current platform and with his record, let alone keeping control of the PLP, is simply ludicrous. Politics is the art of the possible etc...

Fuck off Diamond

 

[DotCommunist]

We shall see whether JC will be the saviour of the LP, never mind 'The Left', in the longer term, but at least, thank fuck, it looks like we will have an official opposition that is willing to actually challenge some of the Goverment's neo-liberal bullshit assumptions for the first time.

wether or not he can win in 2020 doesn't bother me but if he can articulate a message against the depressing 30 years of market worshipping shit I've had on my tele that'll do

is simply ludicrous.

you'll have to say why. You could say 'theres an outside chance he'll win but theres no way capital would allow him his head, it'll be syzria mk 2' and I'd think 'he's got an argument here'

but just saying 'ludicrous' does not an argument make

 

[JHE]

sorry, i was v.drunk on sat evening!

Don't worry about it. Once the extremist teetotal veggy cyclist is in No 10, your problems will be solved, whether you like it or not. The strongest thing you will have access to on a Saturday night is organic carrot juice.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

It misses the point to think that people are pleased with JC's victory because it makes Labour more electable.

It possibly makes Labour worth electing. That's all - a small step, really, but a necessary first one.

 

[andysays]

...this all doesn't really make sense to me...

Quoted for truth

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Don't worry about it. Once the extremist teetotal veggy cyclist is in No 10, your problems will be solved, whether you like it or not. The strongest thing you will have access to on a Saturday night is organic carrot juice.

((( won't somebody think of the carrots! )))

 

[DotCommunist]

Don't worry about it. Once the extremist teetotal veggy cyclist is in No 10, your problems will be solved, whether you like it or not. The strongest thing you will have access to on a Saturday night is organic carrot juice.

but free beard combs and oils for everyone

 

[Smangus]

Politics is the art of the possible etc...

Up until relatively recently most everyone thought that Corbyn winning the leadership was not possible, so what kind of idiotic stance is that?

 

[cesare]

It misses the point to think that people are pleased with JC's victory because it makes Labour more electable.

It possibly makes Labour worth electing. That's all - a small step, really, but a necessary first one.

Plus people might be pleased because of the evident annoyance, sulks, vitriol and general temper tantrums. Which are very entertaining.

 

[ruffneck23]

and still nothing from Tony Blair, he must be either really shitting it or sulking big time

 

[J Ed]

and still nothing from Tony Blair, he must be either really shitting it or sulking big time

Probably somewhere being comforted by the ex-wife of a media mogul...

 

[teqniq]

and still nothing from Tony Blair, he must be either really shitting it or sulking big time

Maybe even both. One can only but hope.

 

[DotCommunist]

and still nothing from Tony Blair, he must be either really shitting it or sulking big time

him and mandleson are locked in a dark room, eyes red rimmed and grimly silent as they work their way through the litre bottles of bells wisky

 

[teqniq]

Bells? Not even something half-decent?

 

[cesare]

and still nothing from Tony Blair, he must be either really shitting it or sulking big time

Keeping his head down to minimise the risk of refugee crisis being laid at his door as ME policy comes home to roost.

 

[The Boy]

Fuck off Dwiamond.

not enough likes

 

[DotCommunist]

Bells? Not even something half-decent?

The single malts were done by 6pm saturday

 

[teqniq]

 

[killer b]

I expect Blair has simply noted that his (openly expressed) views are no help to his allies, and decided to stfu.

 

[nino_savatte]

The wrong Miliband lead to Corbyn and then almost certainly to electoral suicide.

It's "led". Lead is something that goes in pencils, pencil neck.

 

[kebabking]

I expect Blair has simply noted that his (openly expressed) views are no help to his allies, and decided to stfu.

i would agree, but i rather fear that Blairs delusional state means he can't accept it. i've no doubt that people who agree with him have been pleading with him to keep his gob shut for years, but he just can't grip that his words, regardless of what they actually are, just fire up a decent-sized section of the electorate to do precisely the opposite.

he's delusional. he was an excellent politician once, he knew what to say, what not to say, and when to do so. that natural talent doesn't just walk off, it has - imo - been driven out of his mind by whatever coping mechanism he's developed to manage his astonishment at going from the most electorally successful Labour leader ever, to being a revieled creature.

 

[ska invita]

Gleaned from facebook:

Take a look at these figures:
Yvette Cooper: 355,357
Andy Burnham: 247,522
Liz Kendall: 233,175
Jeremy Corbyn: 157,812
These are pounds spent by the candidates on their election campaign. Seems like one candidagte was value for money!

And

So this makes;

Liz Kendall spent £12.37 per vote she got.
Yvette Cooper spent £4.97 per vote.
Andy Burnham spent £3.08 per vote.
Jeremy Corbyn spent 63 pence per vote.

 

[killer b]

He travelled everywhere by train I believe. When he visited Preston he also walked from the train station to the venue (a 15 minute walk).

 

[killer b]

(over a river )

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I expect Blair has simply noted that his (openly expressed) views are no help to his allies, and decided to stfu.

I'm guessing people have just stopped asking him.

Strikes me that he'll talk to anyone any time, and pays no heed whatever to the effect his talking might have on anyone or anything other than himself and his own interests.

 

[billy_bob]

I expect Blair has simply noted that his (openly expressed) views are no help to his allies, and decided to stfu.

 

[killer b]

I'm guessing people have just stopped asking him.

you think they've not been chasing him for a comment the last few days? They had to wheel out Charles Clark on Today this morning, they'd love Blair to break cover...

 

[SpookyFrank]

Bells? Not even something half-decent?

I reckon Blair drinks Teacher's, cunt that he is.

 

[Artaxerxes]

I reckon they both just stick to Cocktails or something, whiskey would be to good for em.