Labour leadership

[two sheds]

NHA Party pleased with Heidi Alexander appointment to shadow Health secretary

The landslide victory of Jeremy Corbyn and the welcome appointment of Heidi Alexander do not erase Labour's failure in opposition to defend the NHS since the Health and Social Care Act in 2012 or their own destructive policies of Private Finance Initiative, Unsustainable Provider Regime and the introduction of an internal market that paved the way for the fragmentation and sell-off of our NHS. Labour's involvement in NHS campaigning on policy has previously been limited to opposing parts of the Health and Social Care Act, refusing to examine this past role, accepting only that they may have 'gone too far' with the private sector.

... and from Homecare website: Jeremy Corbyn appoints Heidi Alexander as shadow health secretary

Ms Alexander was very vocal in her opposition to the closure of Lewisham A&E, highlighting the issue in Parliament.

In Parliament, she has voted for laws that support equality and human rights. She also voted to stop the Government’s NHS reorganisation and to reduce the amount of income a NHS foundation trust is allowed to make from private patients.

She has taken a special interest in end-of-life care in the past and chaired the All-Party Paliamentary Group on Choice at the End of Life during the last Parliament.

 

[belboid]

Angela Eagle's extra title due to Labour 'women row', report says

Interesting they aren't allowing comments on this one. I guess if they were someone would have rapidly pointed out how Corbyn always said he'd appoint a woman to be his deputy in parliament, and that his most prominent female supporter was Angela Eagle. Sounds to me like they just bumped the announcement up

 

[stethoscope]

So Grauniad/twitter reporting fire at Labour offices... interesting timing.

Building next door apparently, but Labour offices evacuated as precautionary.

But the thought of it being desperation from the Blairites did cross my mind for a month

 

[Steel Icarus]

Just seen a Corbynista on my Fb timeline cheerfully proclaim that "a majority of women in the Cabinet* is a landmark moment". Women in top jobs, huzzah

*Not going to point out Shadow Cabinet cos pointless

 

[stethoscope]

Angela Eagle's extra title due to Labour 'women row', report says

Interesting they aren't allowing comments on this one. I guess if they were someone would have rapidly pointed out how Corbyn always said he'd appoint a woman to be his deputy in parliament, and that his most prominent female supporter was Angela Eagle. Sounds to me like they just bumped the announcement up

Overheard by the same Sky reporter who tried to doorstep Corbyn last night wasn't it? Anyway, sounds all very desperate stuff from Sky to me. One for the 'Guardian is going down the pan' thread for also regurgitating it.

 

[agricola]

Angela Eagle's extra title due to Labour 'women row', report says

Interesting they aren't allowing comments on this one. I guess if they were someone would have rapidly pointed out how Corbyn always said he'd appoint a woman to be his deputy in parliament, and that his most prominent female supporter was Angela Eagle. Sounds to me like they just bumped the announcement up

Well exactly - though it could also have been not wanting to have loads of people pointing out that any statement including repeated references to how brilliantly Machiavellian Mandleson is, probably came from the man himself.

 

[SpineyNorman]

Don't worry about it. Once the extremist teetotal veggy cyclist is in No 10, your problems will be solved, whether you like it or not. The strongest thing you will have access to on a Saturday night is organic carrot juice.

There will still be weed though won't there? Bike riding sandal wearing hippy types always love the weed.

 

[SpineyNorman]

Plus people might be pleased because of the evident annoyance, sulks, vitriol and general temper tantrums. Which are very entertaining.

This pretty much nails why I'm happy about it - plus the potential for labour to act vaguely like an opposition party for the first time in my memory.

 

[SpineyNorman]

It's "led". Lead is something that goes in pencils, pencil neck.

By a surprising coincidence that's also what will be going into Diamond's neck come the glorious day.

 

[DotCommunist]

Just seen a Corbynista on my Fb timeline cheerfully proclaim that "a majority of women in the Cabinet* is a landmark moment". Women in top jobs, huzzah

*Not going to point out Shadow Cabinet cos pointless

don't be so cynical, it might be like that time Obama won two terms and abolished racism and now everythings brilliant

 

[killer b]

don't tag him ffs.

 

[andysays]

Overheard by the same Sky reporter who tried to doorstep Corbyn last night wasn't it? Anyway, sounds all very desperate stuff from Sky to me. One for the 'Guardian is going down the pan' thread for also regurgitating it.

"Overheard" more like

 

[killer b]

don't be so cynical, it might be like that time Obama won two terms and abolished racism and now everythings brilliant

my mate was telling me this afternoon about people in the pub yesterday proclaiming 'finally, we can hope again!'

embarassing.

 

[Orang Utan]

I think posters on this forum spend too much time commenting on the Daily Mail. We all know that it is bonkers, if you want to read it that's your choice but don't re-publish its content here, it doesn't need the publicity.

But if people didn't post it here, we wouldn't see it, and it's interesting.

 

[gosub]

Any polls since Corbyn was elected?

Building next door apparently, but Labour offices evacuated as precautionary.

But the thought of it being desperation from the Blairites did cross my mind for a month

we're going to need a lot more bugs for this lot.

 

[wayward bob]

my mate was telling me this afternoon about people in the pub yesterday proclaiming 'finally, we can hope again!'

embarassing.

embarrassing why? because it's naive? because it's neophytes who haven't been involved in party politics over the long haul? because it will make no difference to the political landscape?

i'll hold my hands up to being politically naive, to feeling utterly disenfranchised post 1992, and to feeling just a glimmer of hope that the future might be different in some way.

excuse me if that's embarrassing you...

 

[Crispy]

embarrassing why? because it's naive? because it's neophytes who haven't been involved in party politics over the long haul? because it will make no difference to the political landscape?

i'll hold my hands up to being politically naive, to feeling utterly disenfranchised post 1992, and to feeling just a glimmer of hope that the future might be different in some way.

excuse me if that's embarrassing you...

Are you off your cynicism pills or something?

 

[killer b]

I just find breathless proclamations like that a bit shit. The same guy (a labour party member of many years) said early on in the campaign that Corbyn is 'our only hope'. That isn't allowing faint glimmers of hope, it's setting himself up for another disappointment.

 

[JimW]

my mate was telling me this afternoon about people in the pub yesterday proclaiming 'finally, we can hope again!'

embarassing.

Maybe they'd just heard the landlord was going to be getting guest ales in regular.

 

[killer b]

west lancs camra pub of the year 2014 mate, they already got that covered.

 

[marty21]

I just find breathless proclamations like that a bit shit. The same guy (a labour party member of many years) said early on in the campaign that Corbyn is 'our only hope'. That isn't allowing faint glimmers of hope, it's setting himself up for another disappointment.

I voted for Labour in 83 , I didn't think their manifesto was a suicide note at the moment this feels different .

 

[ffsear]

I think posters on this forum spend too much time commenting on the Daily Mail. We all know that it is bonkers, if you want to read it that's your choice but don't re-publish its content here, it doesn't need the publicity.

I don't get the obsession with it either. Everyone knows what its stands for and its such a cliché to bring it up all the time. Its as if some posters purposely hunt the internet looking at shit that pisses them off. Almost a form of self harming IMO!

 

[killer b]

I voted for Labour in 83 , I didn't think their manifesto was a suicide note

it wasn't tbf.

 

[SovietArmy]

I want general elections right now, why wait for another 5 years sure other countries done why not UK.

 

[ruffneck23]

tbf who knows when a vote of no confidence in the present govt is going to come...

i dont know my facts but can the populi do it ?

 

[DotCommunist]

I want general elections right now, why wait for another 5 years sure other countries done why not UK.

we have 5 year fixed terms here these days.

 

[DotCommunist]

tbf who knows when a vote of no confidence in the present govt is going to come...

i dont know my facts but can the populi do it ?

you could have a tory leadership internal battle but once a party is in its in like fucking flynn for five years

 

[ruffneck23]

maybe a riot then.. or a revolution

 

[killer b]

Just need to knock a few tory MPs off and Labour win the by-elections, then push for a no confidence vote with the nationalists.

Redefine 'target' seats hmm?

 

[Orang Utan]

I just find breathless proclamations like that a bit shit. The same guy (a labour party member of many years) said early on in the campaign that Corbyn is 'our only hope'. That isn't allowing faint glimmers of hope, it's setting himself up for another disappointment.

he does look a bit like ben kenobi tbf