Labour leadership

[belboid]

is there such a thing as an invisible big beast?

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

the loch ness monster?

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Fortunatly, largely irrelevant

Exactly. The Prime Minister doesn't run the NHS, he/she heads a government that funds the running of the NHS by medical professionals. It's not as if Corbyn, if he were ever to become PM, would be out writing prescriptions for everyone whenever they visit the doctors.

Of course, once Corbyn's purge of the political class is complete, he will have absolute dictatorial power with which to write all the prescriptions he wants. The future is a sandal stomping on a human face forever.

 

[two sheds]

quite a bit of homeophobia going on 'ere!

I know, fucking bigeots the lot of them.

 

[two sheds]

One question I'd like Corbyn to ask Cameron: "Does he think it's right that MPs on all sides of the House have interests in companies that profit from privatisation of the NHS?

Disgusting practice that should be banned. Of course MPs are going to vote for privatisation if they're going to make money from it.

 

[DotCommunist]

is there such a thing as an invisible big beast?

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

do you read lovecraft? strange angles

 

[DotCommunist]

Exactly. The Prime Minister doesn't run the NHS, he/she heads a government that funds the running of the NHS by medical professionals. It's not as if Corbyn, if he were ever to become PM, would be out writing prescriptions for everyone whenever they visit the doctors.

Of course, once Corbyn's purge of the political class is complete, he will have absolute dictatorial power with which to write all the prescriptions he wants. The future is a sandal stomping on a human face forever.

a mandal. Because as everyone knows corbyns win is a direct endorsment of patriachal society.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Stephen Pollard, the editor of the Jewsish Chronicle, has written an anti Corbyn piece for the Daily fucking Mail.

A hate rag who opposed us taking jewish refugees from nazi Germany, whose owner wrote glowing tributes to the Reich.

What a twat.

 

[nino_savatte]

Saw an article linked yesterday that tackled those myths: 1983: the biggest myth in Labour Party history | Red Pepper

The other myth is the so-called 'Winter of Discontent' in which we're constantly told that the "entire country" was knee deep in unburied corpses and neck deep in piles of uncollected rubbish. That may have happened in London but where I lived there were no piles of rubbish or unburied corpses.

 

[nino_savatte]

1983.

So it is. Blair fought the Beaconsfield by-election in 1982 and the media were all over him.

 

[two sheds]

The other myth is the so-called 'Winter of Discontent' in which we're constantly told that the "entire country" was knee deep in unburied corpses and neck deep in piles of uncollected rubbish. That may have happened in London but where I lived there were no piles of rubbish or unburied corpses.

And 30 million days lost through strikes that year? As opposed to 2 million extra unemployed under Thatcher? So 2*365 = 700+ million days a year lost through unemployment.

 

[nino_savatte]

Stephen Pollard, the editor of the Jewsish Chronicle, has written an anti Corbyn piece for the Daily fucking Mail.

A hate rag who opposed us taking jewish refugees from nazi Germany, whose owner wrote glowing tributes to the Reich.

What a twat.

Pollard has plenty of form. He used to write for the Daily Abscess if memory serves.

 

[Casually Red]

TBH, I'd rather anyone who wanted homeopathic "medicines" had to pay for them themselves than that they were available on the NHS.

And I thought the placebo effect was taking something which you are told actually has a significant dose of some sort of effective substance in it, rather than which you believe has had its water molecules altered by some nonsensical woo. It's a little misleading to mention the placebo effect in relation to homeopathy, IMO

Not all homeopathy is like that. There's some decent herbal treatments that work for people . If medical ganja for ms sufferers is legalised will you be insisting those freeloaders pay for it themselves ? I certainly won't .

Although I agree there's an awful lot of wankers in sandals peddling complete wank too .

 

[nino_savatte]

And 30 million days lost through strikes that year? As opposed to 2 million extra unemployed under Thatcher? So 2*365 = 700+ million days a year lost through unemployment.

I'm not sure where that 30 million figure comes from. Unemployment definitely hit 3 million by 1982.
BBC ON THIS DAY | 26 | 1982: UK unemployment tops three million

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Not all homeopathy is like that. There's some decent herbal treatments that work for people . If medical ganja for ms sufferers is legalised will you be insisting those freeloaders pay for it themselves ? I certainly won't .

Although I agree there's an awful lot of wankers in sandals peddling complete wank too .

Homeopathy and herbal treatments are not the same thing.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[Casually Red]

And we've also got the bizarre spectacle of Umunna not explicitly resigning being dressed up as

'Corbyn will have to sack me': Defiant Chuka Umunna refuses to resign and challenges new leader to give him the boot

I know there's now an apparent need for new and exciting twists and turns to the story every five minutes, but this is properly ridiculous

No need to sack the cunt, just tell him it was a zero hour contract and the hidden hand of the free market sadly didn't pick him . Speak to him in his own Thatcherite language .

 

[Casually Red]

Homeopathy and herbal treatments are not the same thing.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

It's all hippies , so therefore it is .

Cheers big ears,

Casually Red

 

[two sheds]

I'm not sure where that 30 million figure comes from. Unemployment definitely hit 3 million by 1982.
BBC ON THIS DAY | 26 | 1982: UK unemployment tops three million

From Wiki, although I've seen the claim in a few places: "In total in 1979, 29,474,000 working days were lost in industrial disputes, compared with 9,306,000 in 1978."

Yes probably 365*2.5 million working days from extra unemployment (I've got the figures somewhere but cba to find them) so nearly 1,000 million.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

It's all hippies , so therefore it is .

Cheers big ears,

Casually Red

Ah right I see your 'logic' now. Not quite the same as that used to test the efficacy of health care treatments, but if it works for you then stick with it.

Oh and leave my ears out of it; they're not big...I just have a small head.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[gosub]

From Wiki, although I've seen the claim in a few places: "In total in 1979, 29,474,000 working days were lost in industrial disputes, compared with 9,306,000 in 1978."

Yes probably 365*2.5 million working days from extra unemployment (I've got the figures somewhere but cba to find them) so nearly 1,000 million.

Even Iain Duncan Smith doesn't expect people to work every day of the year.

 

[andysays]

Ah right I see your 'logic' now. Not quite the same as that used to test the efficacy of health care treatments, but if it works for you then stick with it.

Oh and leave my ears out of it; they're not big...I just have a small head.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

CR's "logic", as is well known here, consists basically of "I don't like it/it's not like me, therefore it's shit".

Not what I would base a health care system around personally, but that probably makes me a hippy or something in his eyes

 

[two sheds]

Even Iain Duncan Smith doesn't expect people to work every day of the year.

NHS Consultants mate, NHS Consultants





but yes fair point

 

[nino_savatte]

From Wiki, although I've seen the claim in a few places: "In total in 1979, 29,474,000 working days were lost in industrial disputes, compared with 9,306,000 in 1978."

Yes probably 365*2.5 million working days from extra unemployment (I've got the figures somewhere but cba to find them) so nearly 1,000 million.

The Tories love to use figures to claim that "unions are holding us to ransom".Yet, there's never any mention of the incompetent managers who run businesses and cream off profits for themselves, while paying their workers fuck all.

 

[ViolentPanda]

is there such a thing as an invisible big beast?

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

Only in season 10 of "Stargate SG-1".

 

[ViolentPanda]

Pollard has plenty of form. He used to write for the Daily Abscess if memory serves.

He went back to taking the Desmond shilling on a part-time freelance-ish basis a couple of years ago.

 

[Voley]

The future is a sandal stomping on a human face forever.

 

[Casually Red]

CR's "logic", as is well known here, consists basically of "I don't like it/it's not like me, therefore it's shit".

Not what I would base a health care system around personally, but that probably makes me a hippy or something in his eyes

Utter nonsense . I like Jeremy corbyn . And yet the sandal wearing bearded veggie isn't remotely a bit like me and he isnt shit . So...au contraire .

 

[nino_savatte]

He went back to taking the Desmond shilling on a part-time freelance-ish basis a couple of years ago.

I wonder what his Orthodox readers think of him taking money from a known pornographer?

 

[Pickman's model]

I wonder what his Orthodox readers think of him taking money from a known pornographer?

i imagine many of his reform readers would be unimpressed

 

[two sheds]

Worth a punt I felt:

You asked for questions to ask David Cameron at PMQs. Can I suggest something like:

"Around 200 MPs across the House are reported to have financial links to companies involved in healthcare, and so stand to profit from NHS privatization. While it may be right for MPs to have commercial experience they are always free to do voluntary work, and they should not personally profit from the legislation that they pass. Will the Prime Minister join me in stamping out this unethical practice?"

Thanks in advance

Arthur Jackson

 

[Pickman's model]

Only in season 10 of "Stargate SG-1".

and "harvey"