Labour leadership

[JimW]

I don't want to keep going on about beards all the time (yes I do) but is there any chance Cameron might let his chin go unshorn for a bit? After all, PMQ's is going to be hard work for him when he has a baby's bum of a chin, in the battle of beards he is lagging behind

He'd look even more like a hanging bollock if he did.

 

[Casually Red]

If anything Blair and his ilk and their interventions must have increased Corbyn's vote

Definitely seems like that . He should take the big brush to them and expel them now they've been definitively ignored by such a massive margin . It was their rules which rebounded on them and permitted his election . There's bound to be a few more they brought in that will permit a purge , however symbolic . He should definitely rescind Blair and Mandelsons membership , if only to make a point .

 

[ViolentPanda]

Tell him to put to him that he's a ham faced cunt and should fall on his sword.

Or, in "Parliamentary" language:
"Is the Prime Minister aware that his facial hue is reminiscent of boiled ham, that his mien and attitudes are akin to those of the world's most vile tosser, and that a majority of the citizens of the UK wish that he would disembowel himself in a manner similar to seppuku?"

 

[ViolentPanda]

yes, he's a do for his friends in their 20s tomorrow

And the senior citizens on Monday, to give them a feed before pensions day.

 

[DotCommunist]

its like 'weekend at bernies'. The corpse of the labour left has been exhumed and theres a whole party going on around it in order to secure something or other. Either way, politics just got funnier.

 

[ViolentPanda]

He should ask Dave if he was drinking Bolly or claret in Yorkshire last week - or both

Given the encroaching pinkening of Cameron's hammy face, I'd say both, plus Port and the occasional snifter of fine Cognac. I'm betting his nose is a road-map of busted veins, and that he has a make-up artist accompanying him everywhere to disguise it.

 

[two sheds]

They were annihilated after wheeling out every big gun, every party grandee and having every media spin doctor brief against him with every type of scaremongering . Ha fucking ha .
They should really fuck off now and go away .

They just didn't get their message across, they'll feel they need redouble their efforts.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Just been reading New Statesman, what a rag, it is going to be a key player in trying to undermine JC.

Does anyone read it though? Anyone who wouldn't automatically vote tory anyway?

 

[DotCommunist]

Indeed . But to me it means that one plank they are seriously going to peruse in the avalanche of smears heading his way is his past ..and present...stances on the Irish and Palestinian causes etc . Stephen Nolans already had a bash at that a few weeks ago . Jez told him he couldn't hear his question because of a noisy train and a bad line and hung up .

they've been hammering the 'friend of the terrorist' angle to no avail for weeks. The response I heard from c-byn that was reasonable was on the lines of 'you don't make peace by ignoring the other side'. Seems fair? right? watch the press run with it hard.

 

[Zabo]

Definitely seems like that . He should take the big brush to them and expel them now they've been definitively ignored by such a massive margin . It was their rules which rebounded on them and permitted his election . There's bound to be a few more they brought in that will permit a purge , however symbolic . He should definitely rescind Blair and Mandelsons membership , if only to make a point .

Absolutely, the sooner the better.

Labour also has many things to sort out locally. In 'Red' Greater Manchester we've had homeless people arrested by Manchester City Council. On top of that a Labour Controlled Authority with a PFI hospital throwing out the League Of Friends in favour of a Starbucks franchise! FFS!

 

[maomao]

Does anyone read it though? Anyone who wouldn't automatically vote tory anyway?

About 20,000 or so people read it, far far less than voted for C-Byn. Most probably not habitual Tory voters though. Was originally a Fabian rag.

 

[Casually Red]

Absolutely, the sooner the better.

Labour also has many things to sort out locally. In 'Red' Greater Manchester we've had homeless people arrested by Manchester City Council. On top of that a Labour Controlled Authority with a PFI hospital throwing out the League Of Friends in favour of a Starbucks franchise! FFS!

Scum.

Starbucks frequenting scum

 

[rekil]

they've been hammering the 'friend of the terrorist' angle to no avail for weeks. The response I heard from c-byn that was reasonable was on the lines of 'you don't make peace by ignoring the other side'. Seems fair? right? watch the press run with it hard.

Another paddy loving 5th columnist.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

I'm still trying to think of a question that JC could ask ham-face other than "why don't you fuck off and die?"

 

[Casually Red]

they've been hammering the 'friend of the terrorist' angle to no avail for weeks. The response I heard from c-byn that was reasonable was on the lines of 'you don't make peace by ignoring the other side'. Seems fair? right? watch the press run with it hard.

A pithy response to it might be...hold on..isn't this the very same smug Tory party who were urging people to vote for me ? That wasn't very responsible was it ? Not if they actually believe this stuff .
For me that sarcastic angle would be a better approach to the hysteria than ever getting bogged down in it .

 

[DotCommunist]

A pithy response to it might be...hold on..isn't this the very same smug Tory party who were urging people to vote for me ? That wasn't very responsible was it ? Not if they actually believe this stuff .
For me that sarcastic angle would be a better approach to the hysteria than ever getting bogged down in it .

well if we want to be nitpicking about it thatchers gov reached out via clandestine means to PIRA first so this 'terror wrist lover' shit is hypocrisy. O noes he shook hands with a wrong un. They are doing both. Hamas lover, friend to the IRA. Won't stick though, nobody gives a shit, yesterdays news

 

[equationgirl]

why do you think it is aimed at anyone on here, it isn't, never have, its aimed at largely the liberal left who in the last decade march against everything except this issue.

I am not advocating anything militant either, just civil society creating a new coalition against the reforms.

Funny, you're always posting about how we're not doing anything. Bit late to try and backpedal now.

 

[frogwoman]

Not to forget the govts love of saudi arabia

 

[J Ed]

Not to forget the govts love of saudi arabia

That's the good Islamic State though

 

[ViolentPanda]

That is what Cameron said, surely a Govt Dept/agency can't be that political, this is really dodgy.

It's C C H Q, not GCHQ.

 

[Casually Red]

Sorcery / witchcraft isn't on that list but the punishment is death by beheading in both jurisdictions .

Saudi man executed for 'witchcraft and sorcery' - BBC News

Needless to say mystic meg doesn't have that great a following in either KSA or the caliphate .

 

[ViolentPanda]

the absence of a Hitler tache is also generally welcome . Even though we shouldn't immediately leap to conclusions .

Imagine some fucker with a pony-tail and a Hitler 'tache! You'd almost be obliged, for the sake of the rest of humanity, to give them a shoeing.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Definitely seems like that . He should take the big brush to them and expel them now they've been definitively ignored by such a massive margin . It was their rules which rebounded on them and permitted his election . There's bound to be a few more they brought in that will permit a purge , however symbolic . He should definitely rescind Blair and Mandelsons membership , if only to make a point .

As "leader of the opposition", he'll be expected to recommend people for honours. he could "purge" quite a few cunts to the Upper House, and then, when Labour kneecap the Tories in 2020, abolish the House of Lords.

 

[ViolentPanda]

That's the good Islamic State though

Cameron's Masonic lodge doesn't half have some impressive members - they've got Ronnie Barker and Sanjeev Bhaskar, and got them wearing their full Masonic regalia!

 

[treelover]

Absolutely, the sooner the better.

Labour also has many things to sort out locally. In 'Red' Greater Manchester we've had homeless people arrested by Manchester City Council. On top of that a Labour Controlled Authority with a PFI hospital throwing out the League Of Friends in favour of a Starbucks franchise! FFS!

Didn't Blair say,he would prefer labour lose rather than go Corbyn, much worse 'treason' than any 3 quidder?

 

[ffsear]

i'm loving this! Labour are DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[treelover]

Funny, you're always posting about how we're not doing anything. Bit late to try and backpedal now.

I don't think I have, though I'm sure posters will find examples, I'm aware for instance the work you do around ATOs, etc, advice, etc, apologies if I have individualised it.

 

[spartacus mills]

Check out Tristy's gob.

He looks like he's been hit in the face with a wet copy of the Morning Star.

 

[Casually Red]

Didn't Blair say,he would prefer labour lose rather than go Corbyn, much worse 'treason' than any 3 quidder?

Plus he's also a mass murdering war criminal . Who should be, at the very least, in jail . If corbyns going to talk to people about values he honestly needs to do something about that bastard . Fuck him out .

 

[JHE]

i'm loving this! Labour are DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I understand that some people sincerely think that the election of Corbyn will do the Labour Party great harm, that it will lose a lot of support. There may be truth in that. We'll see. I do think, though, when I read comments like yours, that there's a very big dollop of wishful thinking. You want the LP dead and tell yourself it is to make yourself happy.

It's far far too early to predict how the LP will do in 2020, but soon enough (in a week or so?) there will be a first indication of the Corbyn effect in the form of an opinion poll conducted after the election of Corbyn. If you are as confident as you want others to think you are, give us a (rough) prediction. In the last general election the Labour vote was about 30%, which is bad but far from dead. Do think that now that Corbyn is leader support is going to fall to 25%, 20%, 15%... ? What do you expect to show that the LP is dead or moribund?