Labour leadership

[TheHoodedClaw]

Jamie Reed's resignation seems to be about a fundamental disagreement on nuclear energy policy. He's got Sellafield in his constituency.

 

[red & green]

They will be all falling over themselves now to get in the shadow cabinet

 

[Knotted]

I think it's hugely significant. None of his opponents can make any claim that he's hijacked the party. 60 per cent of the vote is an enormous mandate in a 4-horse race. Especially with probably the next least Blairite candidate picking up half of the remaining 40 per cent, and the arch-Blairite picking up fewer than one in 20 votes, which is miserable by any standards.

You'd think but there's always Nick Cohen:
How Jeremy Corbyn's Coup Hijacked Labour

 

[DotCommunist]

LOL at Ken Livingstone, when BBC reporter mentions 'big hitters' like Hunt and Reeves resigning: 'what do you mean, big hitters? Most people have never heard of them!'

Ken was getting his gloat on hard there

 

[elbows]

There's some quibbling in the comments below the tweet but it seems to be either true, or very near to true.

Significance? None, except he has a massive mandate. Blairites are finished.

Guardian website goes with:

'Trounces rivals with 59% of vote - more than Blair in 1994'

That will do nicely

 

[tim]

Yeah but he's in a party stuffed with Blairites. It's a problem. You can't win an election on your own. What does he do now?

Constituency candidate reselections

 

[Fez909]

 

[Fez909]

Constituency candidate reselections

I thought he'd distanced himself from that policy?

 

[RedDragon]

Can you imagine if you'd been cut off up the Amazon for three months how gobsmacked you'd be if you arrived back today to see Corbyn as Labour leader.

 

[Sirena]

Jamie Reed's resignation seems to be about a fundamental disagreement on nuclear energy policy. He's got Sellafield in his constituency.

You can still have nuclear submarines etc without nuclear warheads.....

 

[tim]

I thought he'd distanced himself from that policy?

Who cares what he said then"to the victor go the spoils".

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

You can still have nuclear submarines etc without nuclear warheads.....

The disagreement is more about nuclear power stations I think.

 

[Fez909]

Well, that didn't take long

 

[scifisam]

Jamie Reed's resignation seems to be about a fundamental disagreement on nuclear energy policy. He's got Sellafield in his constituency.

Corbyn's anti-nuclear power? Is he? Being anti nuclear weapons does not automatically mean being against them for power too.

The austerity bill probably won't pass now. Whatever else happens, that's good news.

 

[SpookyFrank]

He's got a job as shadow health secretary if he wants it, by the sounds of it.

Well his previous form as health secretary speaks for itself

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Corbyn's anti-nuclear power? Is he? Being anti nuclear weapons does not automatically mean being against them for power too.

The austerity bill probably won't pass now. Whatever else happens, that's good news.

tbh his resignation letter makes him sound almost deluded

I will not let anything or anyone from any party stand in the way of the ambitions of my community

That's right, Jamie. Off you pop...

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

Corbyn's anti-nuclear power? Is he?

Yes

 

[Sirena]

The disagreement is more about nuclear power stations I think.

He's dead against Trident but he is fairly neutral on nuclear energy.

He says he does not want any new nuclear power stations and, instead, look at green alternatives. But that's not any reason for his Sellafield constituents to worry.

Nor does Barrow-in-Furness (a neighbouring constituency) need to worry. Nuclear-powered submarines will still be built (if you feel the need for submarines you can't deny the advantage of submarines with unlimited power.....) but they will just have conventional warheads.

And they will be bound to be built/housed at Barrow - purely because nuclear stuff is involved.

 

[ska invita]

Well, that didn't take long

i was going to say, i bet it makes the sun front page tommorow

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Yes

'no new nuclear power'

That's a little different. He's not proposing scrapping existing power stations before their end dates.

 

[Jon-of-arc]

What were the odds on any of these dicks who've resigned front bench positions actually keeping those positions under Corbyn? Not great, I imagine.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

They will be all falling over themselves now to get in the shadow cabinet

Yep. It's a paid position, after all.

 

[Sirena]

Yep. It's a paid position, after all.

Credit cards, chauffeurs the lot.....

 

[DotCommunist]

someone who deosn't drink, in a pub. Highly unusual according to the beeb lol

 

[Rob Ray]

Oh good lord Socialist Party (analysis of what happens next from their "Corbyn wins" article)...

How can onslaught from right be defeated?
Jeremy Corbyn will not be able to defeat the onslaught he will face if he remains isolated within the constraints of the right-wing dominated Labour Party machine.

There are only nine members of the socialist group of MPs of which he is a member. To win he needs to build on the popular movement against austerity that found a voice in his election campaign.

Much of his support has come from the 'outside' - new members and registered supporters who were attracted by the hope of something different.

This is a new party in the process of formation. Many of those are a new generation of young people, alongside some returning former members.

As a starting point we would urgently encourage Jeremy Corbyn to organise a huge conference of all those who have voted for him, plus the many trade unions - including non-affiliated unions like the RMT, PCS and FBU - which support a fighting anti-austerity programme.

The Socialist Party would participate in such a conference and would encourage all other anti-austerity campaigners to do the same.

"We didn't mean it with that whole 'Labour can't be redeemed and we need a new party" thing, can we come back now?"

 

[Knotted]

BBC bod:
"Tom Watson will be a pivotal source of ballast..."

Is he calling him a plank?

 

[elbows]

He says he does not want any new nuclear power stations and, instead, look at green alternatives. But that's not any reason for his Sellafield constituents to worry.

Although there are plenty of other nuclear tasks going on at Sellafield, it is also one of the sites deemed suitable for a new nuclear power station. For that and other reasons to do with the way the whole industry goes in future, there are clearly still local political and economic considerations at stake.

 

[urbanspaceman]

I was wondering - Jeremy Corbyn has been an MP for 32 years, the length of many people's entire working lives.

Is there any identifiable/substantial accomplishment or achievement that he can point to having delivered over the past three decades ?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Although there are plenty of other nuclear tasks going on at Sellafield, it is also one of the sites deemed suitable for a new nuclear power station. For that and other reasons to do with the way the whole industry goes in future, there are clearly still local political and economic considerations at stake.

Sure, but that's not why he's resigned.

 

[Orang Utan]

LOL - i thought this must be from a spoof account at first:
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