Labour leadership

[Bernie Gunther]

unsourced quote from a BBC political reporter. So basically, bullshit.

So what's the mechanism by which the BBC is doing unsourced cynical propaganda hit pieces like that?

... and how is that consistent with this?

BBC - Mission and values - Inside the BBC

 

[DotCommunist]

Almost certainly relayed to the bbc by one of the other candidates vassal's. 'Sources close to' - that combination of shithousery and corruption in the world of political journalism.

this has gone far enough, time to stop

which deputy head type figure could possibly combine such patronising with a sense of incipient panic? Yvette.

 

[red & green]

After panorama hatchet job no surprise but will probably make corbyn voters more determined

 

[red & green]

Heard cooper on the radio tonight - talking about a science revolution just like the industrial revolution to create jobs smdh

 

[Wilf]

which deputy head type figure could possibly combine such patronising with a sense of incipient panic? Yvette.

The losing candidates should have to do a forfeit.

 

[Steel Icarus]

When do we find out the winner by the way?

 

[Dogsauce]

Saturday.

 

[Wilf]

Saturday.

Will it be like the golf, Harman putting a green jacket on the winner?

 

[Kaka Tim]

Will it be like the Oscars or something - Jim Carey hosting and Beyonce coming on to announce the winner?

(seriously - what time on saturday and is there live coverage? I want to see reactions)

 

[belboid]

(seriously - what time on saturday and is there live coverage? I want to see reactions)

About midday I believe

 

[moochedit]

Tory minister expelled by Labour was also a member of Lib Dems

have the greens and ukip checked their membership lists?

 

[treelover]

which deputy head type figure could possibly combine such patronising with a sense of incipient panic? Yvette.

Labour leadership candidate Jeremy Corbyn was urged by one of his most senior supporters to withdraw from the contest - but the message was rebuffed, the BBC understands.

BBC political editor Laura Kuenssberg said the supporter told the left wing MP "a few weeks ago" he had not entered with the intention of winning.

Cooper, not a backer, Diane?

certainly not John McDonnell or Katie Clark

 

[killer b]

Or none of them. It's made up. they're even trying to spin the Corbyn campaigns lack of response as some kind of tacit acceptance that it's true - why would they bother responding to something so pathetic?

 

[Wilf]

Will it be like the Oscars or something - Jim Carey hosting and Beyonce coming on to announce the winner?

Given how it's gone so far, I imagine they've got Mick Fleetwood and Sam Fox lined up.

 

[DotCommunist]

cheggers

 

[hash tag]

Cruddas gave a rare interview on R4 this morning. He was one that encouraged JC to stand and says he has still not made up his mind who to vote for

 

[Kaka Tim]

Given how it's gone so far, I imagine they've got Mick Fleetwood and Sam Fox lined up.

So Sam's added up the second preferences - and the post of deputy leader goes to .....

BANANARAMA!!!!!

 

[youngian]

Labour leadership candidate Jeremy Corbyn was urged by one of his most senior supporters to withdraw from the contest - but the message was rebuffed, the BBC understands.
BBC political editor Laura Kuenssberg said the supporter told the left wing MP "a few weeks ago" he had not entered with the intention of winning.

Well some people have greatness thrust upon them. Not like a BBC political correspondent to miss a well worn cliche like that.

 

[nino_savatte]

Has anyone seen this despicable load of tosh from The New Statesman?
Ascent of the Submarine: George Osborne talks to Jason Cowley

 

[DotCommunist]

Has anyone seen this despicable load of tosh from The New Statesman?
Ascent of the Submarine: George Osborne talks to Jason Cowley

yeah, the only good bit is osborne putting the boot on on the lib dems, I lolled. The rest is your standard alarmist garbage, talking up smith kinnock and blair as great party reformers in touch with 'what the public want from a labour party'.

 

[J Ed]

Has anyone seen this despicable load of tosh from The New Statesman?
Ascent of the Submarine: George Osborne talks to Jason Cowley

I put this on the other thread

The union-busting rag has it right front and centre on its website too. The Fabians were not my cup of tea at all but this shames even their not so impressive legacy.

No doubt any complaints about a supposedly left-wing publication giving such a red baiting rant by the chancellor of the fucking Tory government will be met with accusations of 'virtue-signalling' by the likes of Helen Lewis but even from a business point of view it makes no sense. Why now would even the wooliest of Labour 'left' people buy their very expensive magazine? Why not just cut out the middle man and buy the Spectator or the frankly much better Economist? At least when buying The Economist you know that you are supporting unionised workers since it recognises the NUJ, unlike the New $tatesman

 

[J Ed]

Osborne is obviously trying to win over those who want to win over anyway with vague ideological commitments that will be quickly discarded in an attempt to detoxify the corporate brand. Just like before the 2010 election, and the New $tatesman is giving him a vehicle to do it. Shameful.

 

[nino_savatte]

yeah, the only good bit is osborne putting the boot on on the lib dems, I lolled. The rest is your standard alarmist garbage, talking up smith kinnock and blair as great party reformers in touch with 'what the public want from a labour party'.

The "good work will be undone" message is mischief-making but it also reveals the Tory desire to have a passive opposition. They hate the idea that someone will actually oppose them from the other side of the dispatch box.

 

[nino_savatte]

I put this on the other thread

The union-busting rag has it right front and centre on its website too. The Fabians were not my cup of tea at all but this shames even their not so impressive legacy.

No doubt any complaints about a supposedly left-wing publication giving such a red baiting rant by the chancellor of the fucking Tory government will be met with accusations of 'virtue-signalling' by the likes of Helen Lewis but even from a business point of view it makes no sense. Why now would even the wooliest of Labour 'left' people buy their very expensive magazine? Why not just cut out the middle man and buy the Spectator or the frankly much better Economist? At least when buying The Economist you know that you are supporting unionised workers since it recognises the NUJ, unlike the New $tatesman

The NS's claim to be a 'left-wing' journal has been ringing hollow for a number of years but today, it has truly surpassed itself.

 

[nino_savatte]

Osborne is obviously trying to win over those who want to win over anyway with vague ideological commitments that will be quickly discarded in an attempt to detoxify the corporate brand. Just like before the 2010 election, and the New $tatesman is giving him a vehicle to do it. Shameful.

Indeed, although the claim that the Tories occupy "the centre ground" is patently untrue given their incessant attacks on the vulnerable, benefit claimants and young people. Osborne's appropriation of the "progressive" label, along with his claim that the Tories are the "workers' party" would have even Baudrillard spitting in disgust.

 

[two sheds]

'what the public want from a labour party'.

But actually 'what the tories want from a labour party'

 

[DotCommunist]

the Tories are the "workers' party"

anyone can claim that, the fuckin NSDAP claimed to be a party of the worker.

 

[nino_savatte]

anyone can claim that, the fuckin NSDAP claimed to be a party of the worker.

My point is that the "workers' party" label is just an empty sign. The claim to be "progressive" is another.

 

[weltweit]

My point is that the "workers' party" label is just an empty sign. The claim to be "progressive" is another.

I never know what politicians mean when they say "progressive politics", it is the sort of think the David Millibands of this world spout, I suspect it is just a bullshit phrase that means nothing and it always rankles when I hear it uttered.

 

[flypanam]

Is Kendell suggesting that labour will split if Corbyn wins? Her speech this morning seems to suggest so.

The labour conservative wing would be dead in the water within months.

Jack Blanchard‏@Jack_Blanchard_ 10 mins10 minutes ago

Liz Kendall: After 2010 Ed Miliband "papered over the cracks" of a split in Labour that had been growing since 1997

Jack Blanchard‏@Jack_Blanchard_ 2 mins2 minutes ago

Kendall: Blairite/Brownite splits in must be "buried once and for all"