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Corbyn's said 'f*** the rich' at 1997 Hyde Park student rally :eek: with outbursts like that, there's no way he can possibly win now.

(I think they've run out of barrel)

You mean to scrape? It is amazing that the right wing newspapers have to keep looking for things to condemn in Corbyn, this time as far back as 1997. The closer it gets to his election the harder they try. Why are they so scared of him? They must think that his policies will appeal to enough people to endanger the Tory control of parliament.
 
As I said, it would have been more impressive.
I mean he doesn't say fuck this, fuck that, fuck the rich. It's not his style and I'm sure he wouldn't want to offend his many (mainly working class) constituents who strongly dislike that way of speaking.
 
I mean he doesn't say fuck this, fuck that, fuck the rich. It's not his style and I'm sure he wouldn't want to offend his many (mainly working class) constituents who strongly dislike that way of speaking.
I didn't suggest he did (or does).:confused: What are you on about?
 
My comment on Corbyn was not a response to your post suggesting an even sillier but different CWE slogan.
 
You mean to scrape? It is amazing that the right wing newspapers have to keep looking for things to condemn in Corbyn, this time as far back as 1997. The closer it gets to his election the harder they try. Why are they so scared of him? They must think that his policies will appeal to enough people to endanger the Tory control of parliament.
Reckon they'd have got more milage if they'd had found a :respect the rich quote. Can't believe they've thrown everything at this election but looks like they have
 
Reckon they'd have got more milage if they'd had found a :respect the rich quote. Can't believe they've thrown everything at this election but looks like they have
I suppose it because it still the "silly season" until Parliament re-convenes . They have nothing to talk about.
 
Who said " I ve been friends with Jeremy for years now and you couldn't meet a nicer bloke...." more pertinently, how many times have you heard this
from different speeches, interviews etc in the last week :D

I was called by someone from Tom Watson's camp last night. Have you had your voting stuff through yet? There has been a batch thats been messed up, you
should get them by Tuesday!
 
Ramping up the hysteria. Morton Morland's cartoon in the Times:
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Ramping up the hysteria. Morton Morland's cartoon in the Times:
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It's a failure of deferred gratification for the right wing press. They desperately want him elected in one sense so they can run loony left stories for the next 5 years and they genuinely think he can't win the next general election. But they can't stop themselves doing everything they can to damage his campaign (as they would see it - I doubt it actually does anything to damage him).
 
It's a failure of deferred gratification for the right wing press. They desperately want him elected in one sense so they can run loony left stories for the next 5 years and they genuinely think he can't win the next general election. But they can't stop themselves doing everything they can to damage his campaign (as they would see it - I doubt it actually does anything to damage him).
I'd have thought it more likely that they were (still) dancing to the tune of the government, who have zigzagged from being derisive about JC, to bigging him up almost for a laugh, to a slightly uncomfortable realisation that a) he might actually end up leading the Opposition, and b) an awful lot of people seem to like what he has to say.

Whether or not it adds up in the electoral arithmetic is probably neither here nor there - it's that the existential thing for politicians about being out of step with popular opinion has just kicked in. They're obviously deciding to play the man, not the ball, and hence we start getting all the muckraking, most of which does look a bit desperate - although I suspect I'd be dismayed to find out how many people are taken in by it.
 
I applied to be an affiliate member and received an interesting email from the Labour party the other day which unfortunately I've deleted otherwise I would reproduce it here. essentially it said:

The organisation (Unison) that I am a member of has no record of my membership and furthermore there is no record of me paying the political levy so I am not eligible to vote in the ballot. If I dispute this and could furnish them with the relevant details etc etc.

I hope you can see the glaring contradictions in the first part of that statement. I have told them the same and also told them it looks like vote rigging to me and that I no longer wish to be considered an affiliate member.
 
I like that cartoon in Knotted's post. It looks like Morton Moreland in his visual research has collected some reference pictures of Wilfred Bramble in his role as Albert Steptoe. The inclusion of microphones labelled RT and Press TV continues the libel that Corbyn is "siding with the enemy" but as he says himself his shoulders are broad. I expect he will laugh at it, especially the comment about Labour waking up screaming. Go Jeremy! :)
 
I had no idea that paying the political levy was a requirement to vote
It doesn't seem to be.
I stopped paying the levy a few years ago when Milliband said something stupid about Nurses taking a pay cut to help "pay off the deficit". :facepalm:
I did wonder if my application for affiliate membership would be rejected because of this, but apparently I'm OK. I've even been invited to a local branch meeting on Tuesday :eek: :thumbs:
 
Well fuck 'em anyway. I had misgivings about applying in the first place. Still, I'd be interested to know how they arrived at their decision. Probably my snotty emails to my MP.
 
Apparently 50% of members/supporters not voted yet:
Labour leadership campaign enters final stage with half of members yet to vote
That's very high, even with all the shenanigans, ballots not being sent out etc. Hard to tell what these figures represent though and it's got to the point where I can't see how the party could make any reliable statistical claims. At some point last week the party was claiming up to 60,000 could be stopped from voting (subs not up to date, multiple registrations etc.).
 
Apparently 50% of members/supporters not voted yet:
Labour leadership campaign enters final stage with half of members yet to vote
That's very high, even with all the shenanigans, ballots not being sent out etc. Hard to tell what these figures represent though and it's got to the point where I can't see how the party could make any reliable statistical claims. At some point last week the party was claiming up to 60,000 could be stopped from voting (subs not up to date, multiple registrations etc.).


Doesn't that usually help the more 'conservative' candidates, silent majority, etc?

wish I had took up my Unite Community vote now.
 
Doesn't that usually help the more 'conservative' candidates, silent majority, etc?

wish I had took up my Unite Community vote now.
May well be the case. Impossible to even guestimate in this chaotic election, but you'd imagine corbynistas voted early, on the back of his early rallies and publicity. People voting over the last few days and into this week could well be voting for the others. On the other hand, late voters could be people who took a while to get approved/registered, corbyn voters. Anyway, it will be interesting to see some analysis on the figures, in terms of who voted, 2nd preferences etc - and also to see the full story in terms of the rejections.
 
God this elections fair dragging on a bit...

Fwiw - hope Corbyn wins regardless of what happens afterwards ...
 
Apparently 50% of members/supporters not voted yet:
Labour leadership campaign enters final stage with half of members yet to vote
That's very high, even with all the shenanigans, ballots not being sent out etc. Hard to tell what these figures represent though and it's got to the point where I can't see how the party could make any reliable statistical claims. At some point last week the party was claiming up to 60,000 could be stopped from voting (subs not up to date, multiple registrations etc.).

That looks very suspicious to me, but I believe Labour have claimed they will release a full breakdown of the results, after initially saying they wouldn't. Will be interesting to say the least if Corbyn doesn't win.
 
Could be bad news, BBC Panorama have 'found' documents that Corbyn was at the Cairo Conference after the Iraq War, this is the conference where some of us have mentioned that Chris Harman actually signed the Cairo Declaration which authorised armed force to be used against British troops(not sure by whom) , I think it was if the allies blockaded Palestine, quite a few of the European Social Forum were present as well, maybe some now in power across the EU.
 
He's a labour mp and has been for 32 years, shouldnt be a surprise if hes got some skeletons

This stuff wont damage him among his supporters within Labour, especially not this late in the game
 
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