DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Looks like The Resistance failed to resist anything then.
Labour leadership
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
that's cos they're all cunts.
Wow.
You celebrate me getting mugged alongside this ridiculously pompous drivel?
Quite an achievement.
I suspect that you are one of the most dangerous types of idiot - i.e. one who is just about eloquent enough to believe that they might have valuable insight but lacking any kind of ability to appraise their own behaviour as a direct result of their lazy arrogance.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
the only reason he'd have your back was so he could be the first to knife it should it prove to his advantage to do so
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Well, quite.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
I don't know, he proved remarkably gutless when his moment to challenge for the leadership was there for the taking, perhaps he hopes Corbyn might win the leadership but not make it to the next general election leaving the way free for him ....
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
There are some definite parallels with the gen election certainly. A year, 18 months out I predicted Labour couldn't win the election for what were fairly obvious reasons (not seen as economically credible, hadn't built up much rapport with the electorate, poor leader, tories able to sell a 'it hurt but it's working' message). Over the intervening year and a half the the polls partly, but not completely persuaded me I was wrong - but the polls were wrong. Like most people my first reaction to Corbyn was here we go again, last hurrah of the micro-Labour left, not a cat in hells chance etc. Since then it's certainly been a shock to see the revivalist meetings selling that old time social democracy, to the point where it's assumed he's going to win. He may well do, but the methodological problems for the pollsters are significant, amid an election where the electorate is still being created/excluded. To be honest I'd be surprised if he get's a clear margin of victory. The fact that some 2nd preferences might still break his way, though you'd imagine he won't get too many, might be what delivers the win.
Exactly the same factor might break for Burnham (or even Cooper (??) ) too.
We have no real idea how this complicated shit is really going to work do we?
As you said above pretty much ...
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yeah, definitely on the first point, they are more likely to get more of the 2nd preferences. And it really is a mad situation, where people have been voting for a week or so, whilst others might still be hoyed off the electoral register.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Beige, beige, beige or pink tinted beige smoke.
Or possibly : a bound-to-be-a-massively-successful, also media-friendly 'moderate colourways'-presented mixture?
andysays
Love and solidarity
No, you're not.
I also got in touch with the LP and Unite the other day to get them to see if they could sort it out and yesterday someone from Unite's political department said he was looking into it and asked exactly when I signed up.
met another purgee at my son's housing co-op - disallowed despite 40 years of Labour activism...on the grounds of 'failure to demonstrate appropriate Labour values'...WTF.
I had a sort of smidgeon of hope for a revival of popular leftwing politics but am now convinced that even the groundswell of Corbyn voters (in the absence of any other suitable Leftwing candidate) will make any difference whatsoever - the purges will continue, the voting will be rigged, ballots will mysteriously vanish, oversight will be almost nonexistent and the current status quo of the business party versus the business party2 will remain, in perpetuity, while the electorate is forever shafted by arseholes.
I had a sort of smidgeon of hope for a revival of popular leftwing politics but am now convinced that even the groundswell of Corbyn voters (in the absence of any other suitable Leftwing candidate) will make any difference whatsoever - the purges will continue, the voting will be rigged, ballots will mysteriously vanish, oversight will be almost nonexistent and the current status quo of the business party versus the business party2 will remain, in perpetuity, while the electorate is forever shafted by arseholes.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
email the returning officer
andysays
Love and solidarity
So it turns out that there's no record of my application to join as an affiliate member, possibly because I didn't complete the sign-up process properly 
Interesting to find out that it will still be possible to sign up as an affiliate after the leadership contest is over, and that
Interesting to find out that it will still be possible to sign up as an affiliate after the leadership contest is over, and that
Unite's political department said:
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
that's more than an actual member can do.So it turns out that there's no record of my application to join as an affiliate member, possibly because I didn't complete the sign-up process properly
Interesting to find out that it will still be possible to sign up as an affiliate after the leadership contest is over, and that
andysays
Love and solidarity
Oh, such cynicism
I guess what it means is that affiliate members can attend meetings and have the same input into policy etc as ordinary members, ie not very much at all
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
In my personal opinion, no. I used to just disregard the smarm-pot, but ever since he bullshitted about the campaign to save my estate from demolition, claiming it was a Green Party front, and then deleted posts from his facebook page that gave him the lie, I actively distrust the bastard.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Corbyn will see through that.
Still, Chuka would be useful, as long as Corbyn bears Chuka's primary motivation in mind.
I trust him as I trust a fox lurking around a chicken coop.
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kabbes
First intersubjective, then internalised
So that's an absolute trust then? As in, you can completely trust your understanding of his motivations.
Perfect trust - I trust him to act in accordance with his nature, no more and no less.
gosub
~#
Corbyn's said 'f*** the rich' at 1997 Hyde Park student rally with outbursts like that, there's no way he can possibly win now.
(I think they've run out of barrel)
with outbursts like that, there's no way he can possibly win now.(I think they've run out of barrel)
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Would have been more impressive if he'd called for the masses to eat the rich.Corbyn's said 'f*** the rich' at 1997 Hyde Park student rally
(I think they've run out of barrel)
JHE
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Corbyn's said 'f*** the rich' at 1997 Hyde Park student rally
That just doesn't sound like Corbyn. He may have his faults, but sounding like a member of Class War Encore is not one of them.
(Edited to clarify which post I am responding to.)
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