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This article attacking Ralph Mlliband and by association his son who was leading Labour at the time, is as good as an antisemitic dog-whistle as you'll find anywhere

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Perhaps not as overt as this from an earlier edition of the Daily Mail.

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Gonna be a shock to Urbanites to discover the daily mail being racist
 
It's a given that the Tory Party is racist as fuck, as it's also a given that the media will generally downplay this racism. But the response to anti semitism in the Labour Party of "but look at the Tories" by those on the left is rubbish. You might as well be saying "but look at Hungary so let's not talk about it" and it is a shit response. Also the fact that the big names that have brought up anti semitism have tended to be on the right of the party makes it no less valid.
 
Of my experience of the labour branch meetings there was no anti-semitism.
I've seen plenty on line but who knows who's on line and whether they're a member.
I do know until the recent elections the NEC the main party apparatus was still in the hands of the Blairites who were trying to blame Corbyn for inaction when it was still their place men in charge.
Lets see if we can get rid of the real anti-semites They are not welcome. As to the MPs who have left they used everything and anything to get at Corbyn. Who knows what the truth is? They all signed the letter trying to bully Corbyn out instead of calling an election but when the members try to campaign and call a reselection election it's bullying. The party is well rid of them.
 
It's a given that the Tory Party is racist as fuck, as it's also a given that the media will generally downplay this racism. But the response to anti semitism in the Labour Party of "but look at the Tories" by those on the left is rubbish. You might as well be saying "but look at Hungary so let's not talk about it" and it is a shit response. Also the fact that the big names that have brought up anti semitism have tended to be on the right of the party makes it no less valid.
Agreed.
 
I also think the labour AS issue is about what sort of socialism we want. The attempts to minimise labour AS and attack those who raise it reflect an authoritarianism.

And I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Chris Williamson’s defence of Maduro, Beeley etc also happens be very keen to downplay labour AS.
 
It's a given that the Tory Party is racist as fuck, as it's also a given that the media will generally downplay this racism. But the response to anti semitism in the Labour Party of "but look at the Tories" by those on the left is rubbish. You might as well be saying "but look at Hungary so let's not talk about it" and it is a shit response. Also the fact that the big names that have brought up anti semitism have tended to be on the right of the party makes it no less valid.

This. Either we have principles or we don’t.
 
I also think the labour AS issue is about what sort of socialism we want. The attempts to minimise labour AS and attack those who raise it reflect an authoritarianism.

And I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Chris Williamson’s defence of Maduro, Beeley etc also happens be very keen to downplay labour AS.

Has there been any work done on differing attitudes towards antisemtism between liberation and Leninist/social democratic socialist movements?
 
This article attacking Ralph Mlliband and by association his son who was leading Labour at the time, is as good as an antisemitic dog-whistle as you'll find anywhere

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Perhaps not as overt as this from an earlier edition of the Daily Mail.

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They're still not keen on those who mix with the wrong sort of Jew

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But that’s okay. Because Ralph Miliband was not only Jewish, he was a Marxist Jew. That means you can say what you like about him with no comeback! He even wrote books and papers extolling the values of Marxism. So that’s another target because not only was Marx extolling the values of Marxist thought, he was a German Jew and The Daily Mail hated them as much as they hate Islamists and Irish Republicans.
 
It's a given that the Tory Party is racist as fuck, as it's also a given that the media will generally downplay this racism. But the response to anti semitism in the Labour Party of "but look at the Tories" by those on the left is rubbish. You might as well be saying "but look at Hungary so let's not talk about it" and it is a shit response. Also the fact that the big names that have brought up anti semitism have tended to be on the right of the party makes it no less valid.

Indeed, but giving the impression that antisemitism is a uniquely Corbyn inspired Labour problem is also a rubbish approach.
 
On a positive note (of which there aren’t many with this) witnessing antisemitism (of considerable virulence and quantity) within the activist circles that I’ve been involved in, and the tolerance for that antisemitism - as well as having over the past few months being bullied out of an activist group for raising it, being doxxed for it, being accused of all manner of things for it, and only yesterday being told my someone that they would ‘make my name mud’ (??) - it has made me really reflect on how much tolerance I’ve given to the kind of Red-Brown crap that is driving antisemitism in labour
 
Also from the Guardian.

'Watson said he had received 50 complaints about antisemitism from colleagues in the past week, which he had forwarded to Corbyn. “Jeremy needs to understand that if we are going to be in No 10, he needs to change the Labour party,” he said. He needs to take a personal lead in reviewing those cases, and recommending to the national executive committee what needs to be done.”

Details of the dossier, seen by the Guardian, include Labour members sending tweets linking Hitler and the Rothschilds, accusing Jews of murdering children and questioning whether Jewish MPs and councillors have “human blood”.

All of the cases have been raised by Watson or other Labour MPs over a period of several months, but no action has been reported back to those who have raised the complaints, he said.

One case involved a tweet, which read: “Wonder why Jewish people are hated wherever they’ve settled over last 2000 years. Their double dealing, back stabbing, cheating chilling coldness has always only one outcome. I wonder what the average period of time is before people fed up with the anti-social Jews kick em out”.

Another concerned a tweet saying that, “Jews murder people and children”.

A third complaint involved comments about Jewish MPs and councillors that said: “Don’t know what runs through their veins, not human blood” and “their hearts and brains totally devoid of humanity”.

A fourth complaint related to social media posts, including one that said: “Hitler is an illegitimate Rothschild, so any offspring of him who would have a good chance of being propelled into a position of power.”'

What a fucking cesspit the Labour party has become.

come along to a CLP and tell us all about it, you cynical, know nothing, no mark w*nker

or maybe go along to Wavertree CLP, share your " Hillsborough - it was the drunken scousers own fault " theories, and take it from there
 
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As an aside Sasaferrato is like my Mum.
She too thinks that the Labour Party doing something shit somehow reflects badly on me, someone who has been resolutely and consistently anti-Labour for 3 decades.

Yeah, thinking the Daily Mail is a fetid shitrag means I’m Corbyn’s biggest fan according to my Dad.
 
Watson is reporting right wing attacks on jews as being from the left. The bloke is a cunt.

Peter Kyle, Brighton MP, who has taken weaponisation of AS etc to new levels in his fight vs socialism in his CLP, referred to the ' anti semitic bully now in prison ' for harassing Luciana Berger earlier in the week - he forgot to mention that the f*ckwit in question was a self declared white nationalist.

As for the ' 50 AS incidents reported by PLP members this week' that Watson keeps referring to ? Apparently nearly all involve anyone so much as mentioning Joan Ryan's role as chair of LFI, and her being caught up, on camera, in the Lobby undercover filming :
 
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