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Territorial Support Group - though they are just the old Tactical SG really. Which you may have meant.Tactical Support Group: riot cops.
Who are getting shit thrown at them
Territorial Support Group - though they are just the old Tactical SG really. Which you may have meant.Tactical Support Group: riot cops.
Who are getting shit thrown at them
I don't know what TSG is. But obviously there's not a huge amount of faith in the IPCC's (I think) ability to investigate this kind of thing and that's not totally without foundation in my opinion.
Some big ole assumptions there.
"David Lammy, Labour MP for Tottenham, said: "I am shocked and deeply worried by this news. There is now a mood of anxiety in the local community but everyone must remain calm. It is encouraging that the Independent Police Complaints Commission has immediately taken over the investigation. There is a need to clarify the facts and to move quickly to allay fears.""
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...bullet-hit-his-radio-in-gunfight-2332670.html
Fuck off Lammy. Really. Useless New Labour tosspot.
Islington is miles away.Nah, really not posh round there. There's a bit of an interface with Islington (comedy postcode shenanigans with estate agents ensue) but outside of that small area, no.
Bit confused about why these people are rioting though. The shite-papers-who-suck-police-cock ('hail of bottles', 'bulky jacket/behaving suspiciously', 'pissing on and robbing the dead at Hillsborough', etc) are all reporting that the guy was an evil 'gangsta'
... which causes me (perhaps naively) to wonder, are the locals:
a) generally in favour of 'gangstas' and hence rioting to protest the cops shooting one?
b) believing the guy innocent (it's not like the shite-papers-who-suck-police-cock are exactly trustworthy sources of truth after all) or at least shot unreasonably?
c) severely pissed off about other stuff and merely taking the presence of tooled up riot police as an excuse to kick off?
Bit confused about why these people are rioting though. The shite-papers-who-suck-police-cock ('hail of bottles', 'bulky jacket/behaving suspiciously', 'pissing on and robbing the dead at Hillsborough', etc) are all reporting that the guy was an evil 'gangsta'
... which causes me (perhaps naively) to wonder, are the locals:
a) generally in favour of 'gangstas' and hence rioting to protest the cops shooting one?
b) believing the guy innocent (it's not like the shite-papers-who-suck-police-cock are exactly trustworthy sources of truth after all) or at least shot unreasonably?
c) severely pissed off about other stuff and merely taking the presence of tooled up riot police as an excuse to kick off?
Bit confused about why these people are rioting though. The shite-papers-who-suck-police-cock ('hail of bottles', 'bulky jacket/behaving suspiciously', 'pissing on and robbing the dead at Hillsborough', etc) are all reporting that the guy was an evil 'gangsta'
... which causes me (perhaps naively) to wonder, are the locals:
a) generally in favour of 'gangstas' and hence rioting to protest the cops shooting one?
b) believing the guy innocent or at least shot unreasonably?
c) severely pissed off about other stuff and merely taking the presence of tooled up riot police as an excuse to kick off?
Duywayne Brooks said on FB where was the riots when people like the guy that got shot shoot innocent people?
It's away from this specific instance really, yeah, that's the borough in general.Islington is miles away.
I live round there - not home at the mo. though. It's about as far from posh as you can possibly get. Mostly families.
Mostly residential apart from the High Road where the riots are, which is nearly all small local businesses.
Perhaps, though they are nowhere near as bad as is commonly alleged (certainly its difficult to think of a case like this where they have been obviously wrong), and in any case they are a vast improvement on the PCA. Not sure that burning a bus, some shops and a pair of police cars is a better way of dealing with it though.
I'm sure I've read something about people putting call outs on twitter for anyone with a beef with the cops to come down.
Odd, because it's not like there's the largest Hasidic community outside of Israel there or anything.BBC news 24 presenter. " I can see hasidic jews"
yep - it *always* kicks off in the holidays in Tottenham.d) it's the school holidays
" I can see hasidic jews"
Well that's a fucking shock.
Duywayne Brooks said on FB where was the riots when people like the guy that got shot shoot innocent people?
There was definately a rumour going around (reported in the Grauniad and the Standard, IIRC) that he (Duggan) had been shot four times whilst laying on the ground
and the two police cars being left unprotected in the midst of an angry crowd etc etc
Yep - and we've had youth services cut to the bone in Haringey, there's no one in the middle to calm things, talk to people, so the rumours get out of hand and the anger builds and all the time the cops say nothing.There was definately a rumour going around (reported in the Grauniad and the Standard, IIRC) that he (Duggan) had been shot four times whilst laying on the ground, and rumours (even entirely fact-free ones) can kick this sort of thing off, as the Lozells riot demonstrated a few years back. Otherwise it is probably a mix of things, like the usual oiks taking a chance to have a go back, and the two police cars being left unprotected in the midst of an angry crowd etc etc
Well yes, but the shite papers saying he was an evil gangsta might indicate that in fact he was just some random guy the cops shot and then briefed their mates in the gutter press to lie about, as they have on so many other occasions after killing someone.
I personally have no knowledge one way or the other, but given the form the cops and shite papers have in such cases, it would be a rather refreshing change if they weren't selling cynical arse-covering porkies to the general public yet again in this case.
I'd be interested in hearing what the local view on the dead chap was.
Odd, because it's not like there's the largest Hasidic community outside of Israel there or anything.
I love living there because of the people actually. I do feel a sense of community I didn't get anywhere else in London. This is why it depresses me so much.It's away from this specific instance really, yeah, that's the borough in general.
(I lived just by Seven Sisters - literally, about 50m away from the tube, a bit down Broad Lane - incidentally. I also have to say that I hated living there. All the actual people there were fine, mind.)