Keir Starmer's time is up

[steveseagull]

Keith needs an ambulance after that burn. Fucking hell.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Nandy takes anti-revisionist step:

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Nandy takes anti-revisionist step:

So, I assume she doesn't get the boot off the front bench to show that Tarry wasn't sacked for visiting a picket line right? Subtle...

 

[Jeff Robinson]

So, I assume she doesn't get the boot off the front bench to show that Tarry wasn't sacked for visiting a picket line right? Subtle...

May well be a revisionist double agent.

 

[xenon]

Thought this was funny. "Finally found some strikers you can support then."

Starmer gets brutally trolled over letter to Lionesses

Starmer letter trolled: The Labour leader has been quite selective over who he gives his support to over the past few weeks.

www.thelondoneconomic.com

 

[The39thStep]

So, I assume she doesn't get the boot off the front bench to show that Tarry wasn't sacked for visiting a picket line right? Subtle...

There was an torturous explanation by Starmerites that a) she had requested and been given permission to attend b) that she hadn’t said anything about workers deserving wage settlements that keep pace with or above the rate of inflation and that c) the Union is affiliated to Labour .

That’s quite a checklist to go through

 

[The39thStep]

The other thing that was mentioned was that Tarry cynically and deliberately set himself up to get sacked as he is facing a selection challenge . Although the logic of this line continues to evade me .

 

[Pickman's model]

The other thing that was mentioned was that Tarry cynically and deliberately set himself up to get sacked as he is facing a selection challenge . Although the logic of this line continues to evade me .

the logic is clear if you're a labour member of parliament. i suppose.

 

[SpookyFrank]

All the reselection fuckery needs keeping an eye on tbh.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Ah, remember when suggesting an MP might face reselection was apparently disgusting abusive behaviour?

 

[oryx]

Ah, remember when suggesting an MP might face reselection was apparently disgusting abusive behaviour?

The only answer is either to have automatic reselection for all sitting MPs, or to have the reselection process for all.

At the moment it's just subject to factionalist abuse, mainly from the right of the party.

 

[likesfish]

The right of The party sabotaged the elected leader undermined the democratic party members are membership five off a cliff and finances along with it.

 

[steveseagull]

Total clown show led by a complete clown

Labour facing ‘breakdown in discipline’ as Nandy visits picket line

Shadow ministers say Keir Starmer’s ban on visiting picket lines has ‘effectively broken down’ as frontbencher visits CWU members

www.theguardian.com

 

[Orang Utan]

The right of The party sabotaged the elected leader undermined the democratic party members are membership five off a cliff and finances along with it.

ooh punctuation's what you need

 

[Puddy_Tat]

ooh punctuation's what you need

punctuation, punctuation, punctuation

 

[Leighsw2]

All the reselection fuckery needs keeping an eye on tbh.

Well this is good news. I had worried that some of the absolute bastards in Streatham right-wing Labour might have been up to their tricks.....

 

[Leighsw2]

Here's a tick-box exercise for everyone who visits this thread. How many of these 'reasons' do you agree with?
I Hate Keir Starmer

 

[Leighsw2]

I'm quite taken by the wet wipe analogy.

 

[kabbes]

I'm quite taken by the wet wipe analogy.

The perfect line:

“Normally when politicians lie these days, it is to spin a fantasy their supporters feel inspired to embrace, whereas Starmer simply promises the bare minimum, before flaking out on it: nominally centre-left politics’s very own absentee dad”

 

[Leighsw2]

I also like,

Living in Britain right now can be terrifying, because everything is very obviously broken (just try accessing medical care, being a working parent and trying to afford childcare, making enough money to pay your energy bills...), but basically nothing can be done about it, because the political and media classes opted to erase pretty much all the norms that allow our democracy to function rather than give Jeremy Corbyn the chance to lead it. Sometimes it really does feel a bit like, without noticing, we lost a war. We desperately need a different government, one with ideas other than “scrap clean energy targets” or “blame trans people” or “start a trade war with China we would lose,” but we can't have one — because where the opposition should by rights be offering an alternative to the current, ongoing disaster, Starmer instead stands in place as a symbol of the system's refusal to allow us one. The fact of Keir Starmer is felt as a blank void where a better future should be.

 

[tommers]

I also like,

It's not even Starmer. He's just the face of the establishment. The face of the scramble by the Labour Party to make themselves "electable" (by removing any trace of any principles). He's nothing special, he's the return to normality.

 

[SpookyFrank]

The fact of Keir Starmer is felt as a blank void where a better future should be.

This is exactly how I feel about it.

I suppose it might work out for the good in the long run. With Corbyn as LOTO people allowed themselves to believe that meaningful change could happen in an attenuated neoliberal democracy if we just had the right leader. Nobody looks at Starmer and thinks, maybe we can vote our way out of this mess. Which is the truth of it, and always was. Even if Corbyn had become PM the establishment would have burned the country to ash sooner than let him make a few relatively moderate common-sense improvements to it.

 

[strung out]

With Corbyn as LOTR

If only...

 

[SpookyFrank]

If only...

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Now there's a crossover fanfic rabbit hole I'm keen to avoid.

 

[Funky_monks]

Here's a tick-box exercise for everyone who visits this thread. How many of these 'reasons' do you agree with?
I Hate Keir Starmer

I laughed out loud a few times reading that.

Then I wondered why I was laughing, because it confirmed how shit the state of everything in electoral politics in the UK is and, with no revolution remotely in consideration by the majority of people, will continue to be.

Existential crisis ahoy.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Labour’s ‘plan’ to ‘take real action’ to tackle the cost of living crisis is beyond a joke:​

Labour’s plan to take real action now to tackle the Conservatives’ cost of living crisis:​

• Cut VAT on home energy bills.
• Save on energy bills now and in the longer term by insulating millions of homes.
• Cut small business rates and support businesses through the cost of living storm.
• Buy, make and sell more in Britain to create well-paid, secure jobs in every community.

Both woefully inadequate and indistinguishable from what Truss and Sunak are pledging

 

[Spandex]

Labour’s ‘plan’ to ‘take real action’ to tackle the cost of living crisis is beyond a joke:​

Labour’s plan to take real action now to tackle the Conservatives’ cost of living crisis:​

• Cut VAT on home energy bills.
• Save on energy bills now and in the longer term by insulating millions of homes.
• Cut small business rates and support businesses through the cost of living storm.
• Buy, make and sell more in Britain to create well-paid, secure jobs in every community.

Both woefully inadequate and indistinguishable from what Truss and Sunak are pledging

Yes!

This is the kind of far sighted, ambitious proposal I want to see from Iron Keir. A hardcore Labour policy that would make Corbyn/Mcdonald blush at their lack of ambition. Look at it. Look at what it means:

- Save on energy bills now and in the longer term by insulating millions of homes

If they're going to save on energy bills now, those millions of homes need to be insulated before the weather turns in October/November.

If this is a plan to tackle the cost of living crisis then it'll have to come at no cost to the people whose houses are insulated. The £billions that it'll cost will have to come from the treasury.

It means a massive mobilisation of the country's building industry laser focused on insulating millions of homes in the next three months, arranged and paid for by the state. The scale of the proposal makes my head spin with anticipation of what massive state undertakings Iron Keir will be coming up with next.

That, or it's just some ill thought through, badly worded brain fart worthy of Truss...

 

[emanymton]

The other issues with insulation, solar panels, heat pumps and what is that they are generally not an option for people who rent, so they tend to benefit those who are already better off.

 

[Raheem]

Labour’s ‘plan’ to ‘take real action’ to tackle the cost of living crisis is beyond a joke:​

Labour’s plan to take real action now to tackle the Conservatives’ cost of living crisis:​

• Cut VAT on home energy bills.
• Save on energy bills now and in the longer term by insulating millions of homes.
• Cut small business rates and support businesses through the cost of living storm.
• Buy, make and sell more in Britain to create well-paid, secure jobs in every community.

Both woefully inadequate and indistinguishable from what Truss and Sunak are pledging

So the solution to everything being more expensive is to "buy more".

 

[Karl Masks]

The other issues with insulation, solar panels, heat pumps and what is that they are generally not an option for people who rent, so they tend to benefit those who are already better off.

and if rental accomodation is improved, landlords will just use that to jack up rents