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19force8 said:
Yep, heard that one before. Tell me, is the problem immigration or the inadequacy of local services? Because it seems to me if the solution is to stop immigration then it must be the immigrants that are the problem. Not racist at all.
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The solution isn't necessarily to stop immigration. It could be to increase funding or find areas whose services aren't heavily oversubscribed.
What's irksome though is when liberal cunts dip their noses in and start calling people racists for raising concerns about an area where the liberal cunts don't even live!
There's a certain degree of class hatred about it I think.
 
I think people object to being lied to only 50000 from eastern europe prime example.
Also zero action from goverment to make any attempt to provide extra funding or anything when a suprise extra million turn up :(
 
Magnus McGinty said:
The solution isn't necessarily to stop immigration. It could be to increase funding or find areas whose services aren't heavily oversubscribed.
What's irksome though is when liberal cunts dip their noses in and start calling people racists for raising concerns about an area where the liberal cunts don't even live!
There's a certain degree of class hatred about it I think.
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Those liberal cunts sure are irksome, but nobody's being called a racist here.

E2A "a"
 
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ViolentPanda said:
You don't know you're born! :mad:

A REAL stink was Battersea, when Garton's Glucose, Prices Candles and Morgan Crucible were all running back in the '60s and '70s. Just passing by on the bus was enough to have everyone retching! :eek:
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I raise you, LRC on Stockwell Road.
 
19force8 said:
Yep, heard that one before. Tell me, is the problem immigration or the inadequacy of local services? Because it seems to me if the solution is to stop immigration then it must be the immigrants that are the problem. Not racist at all.
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Not sure, but - filtered through the internet - I can't tell whether or not you're being sarcastic.
 
isvicthere? said:
Not sure, but - filtered through the internet - I can't tell whether or not you're being sarcastic.
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Never sure about sarcasm myself. When people talk about problems with immigration they're indirectly saying that migrants are a problem or cause a problem. This isn't necessarily racist, it depends on the nature of the "problem" and the proposed solutions.
 
19force8 said:
Never sure about sarcasm myself. When people talk about problems with immigration they're indirectly saying that migrants are a problem or cause a problem. This isn't necessarily racist, it depends on the nature of the "problem" and the proposed solutions.
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Given that immigration is a function of capitalism, and capitalism tends to fuck over workers regardless of whence they came, it often surprises me just how aggressive parts of the left get towards anything approaching criticism of it. I mean, the people who benefit the most aren't the immigrants or the communities they move into, but the capitalists themselves.
Heaven forbid communities having objections to how rapidly their neighbourhoods change, they're just the racist buggers who grew up there!
 
Magnus McGinty said:
Given that immigration is a function of capitalism, and capitalism tends to fuck over workers regardless of whence they came, it often surprises me just how aggressive parts of the left get towards anything approaching criticism of it. I mean, the people who benefit the most aren't the immigrants or the communities they move into, but the capitalists themselves.
Heaven forbid communities having objections to how rapidly their neighbourhoods change, they're just the racist buggers who grew up there!
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Yeah! Fucking capitilism! They should absolutely be allowed to put posters in their windows saying "No dogs, no Irish, no blacks" because they don't want their neighbourhoods to change. Or is that not what you meant?
 
19force8 said:
Yeah! Fucking capitilism! They should absolutely be allowed to put posters in their windows saying "No dogs, no Irish, no blacks" because they don't want their neighbourhoods to change. Or is that not what you meant?
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Is this the sort of counter position you adopt to silence those with objections to raise? I was going to suggest that perhaps engaging with them might be more fruitful but then it dawned on me that you probably never even set foot in the places you demand accept more and more people, so what's the point?
 
19force8 said:
Yeah! Fucking capitilism! They should absolutely be allowed to put posters in their windows saying "No dogs, no Irish, no blacks" because they don't want their neighbourhoods to change. Or is that not what you meant?
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So how can people stop their communities being turned into dormitory towns for cheap labour? Or does a million Poles coming over here to do our shit jobs for shit money and live in shit houses that aren't fit for families any more constitute 'freedom of movement'? It doesn't look like freedom to me. It looks like the working classes being pushed about in order to support their families.
 
maomao said:
So how can people stop their communities being turned into dormitory towns for cheap labour? Or does a million Poles coming over here to do our shit jobs for shit money and live in shit houses that aren't fit for families any more constitute 'freedom of movement'? It doesn't look like freedom to me. It looks like the working classes being pushed about in order to support their families.
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Moreover, I don't see how it benefits Poland either stripping communities of their workers to come and work for a pittance here.
But this is the sort of progressive non racism Bremain voters are all about.
 
Magnus McGinty said:
Is this the sort of counter position you adopt to silence those with objections to raise? I was going to suggest that perhaps engaging with them might be more fruitful but then it dawned on me that you probably never even set foot in the places you demand accept more and more people, so what's the point?
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No, this is the attitude I take to liberal left wankers when I get sick and tired of their using fake anti-capitalist rhetoric because they think they have to pander to the working class. Who in their vast experience are overwhelmingly racist.*

* (for isvicthere? and others, that last sentence was meant sarcastically) :)
 
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Magnus McGinty said:
Moreover, I don't see how it benefits Poland either stripping communities of their workers to come and work for a pittance here.
But this is the sort of progressive non racism Bremain voters are all about.
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It benefits the Polish government because it brings money into the economy for zero investment and lets them run with relatively high unemployment. I'm not sure how that benefits Poland as a nation or a society though.
 
Magnus McGinty said:
Moreover, I don't see how it benefits Poland either stripping communities of their workers to come and work for a pittance here.
But this is the sort of progressive non racism Bremain voters are all about.
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Clearly then, we should ban Polish immigrants - for their own good.

ffs
 
19force8 said:
No, this is the attitude I take to liberal left wankers when I get sick and tired of their using fake anti-capitalist rhetoric because they think they have to pander to the working class. Who in their vast experience are overwhelmingly racist.*

* (for isvicthere? and others, that last sentence was meant sarcastically) :)
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When the far right eventually get in and come to murder you in the night, give yourself a liberal pat on the head, if you're not shitting yourself too much.
 
The "best" chatroom biography I've ever read is one I saved earlier this year:
Jellytot on 18 January, 2017 at 3:23 pm said:

Yes, I am a Irish/English Londoner with a Chinese wife, Biracial kids, a Canadian passport, US Green Card, properties in the US, Canada and China, a business in Thailand, who speaks fluent Mandarin, passable Thai and Japanese. Is a former member of the SWP, ran very briefly with Red Action and AFA, activist in the ANL in the 90’s and currently a LP member, HnH supporter and financier and who has just joined Momentum……and happen to support immigration controls. I may be many things but a Powellite “little Englander” I am not.
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You couldn't make it up!

and to prove I didn't, here's the link - Socialist Unity | Debate & analysis for activists & trade unionists Post 95
 
maomao said:
So how can people stop their communities being turned into dormitory towns for cheap labour? Or does a million Poles coming over here to do our shit jobs for shit money and live in shit houses that aren't fit for families any more constitute 'freedom of movement'? It doesn't look like freedom to me. It looks like the working classes being pushed about in order to support their families.
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but the most brexity areas have been those least affected by immigration. In clacton - for example - you will struggle to see a non-white face and last time i was there (two months ago) i did not hear a single non-essex accent - or spot a polish deli - (although there was an eastern european seciton in the local morrisons).
Yet you will still hear plenty of locals moaning about the eastern european's "taking our jobs", "taking over" etc.
Its long term economically deprived and this has got worse - but people seem to find it easier to blame this on the EU and a (perceived) increase in immigration rather than austerity and the banking crash.
 
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