Johnny Depp Libel Case
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maomao
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I hate cases like this. No casual observer has really heard the evidence in enough detail to form a reliable opinion. Even then there's room for doubt or it wouldn't be in court. Most (by a long long way) domestic abuse is perpetrated by men but being falsely accused of it, even in semi-jest on a bulletin board, can be very upsetting.
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It Johnny Depp had been married to Amber Rudd, it would have been a make-believe pirate married to an actual pirate.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Now I would be all over the tabloids for that breakupWhen I saw the name Amber Heard, I was thinking Amber Rudd and wondering when she's been married to Johhny Depp
Serge Forward
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I think you're not really entering into the spirit of this thread
DJWrongspeed
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A couple of points :
A) Depp is quite an anglophile so it surprises me he's so upset by the Sun story. Anyone in the Uk knows it's the gutter press and can't be relied on
B) Why is he clogging up our courts system that has gone into meltdown during COVID with so many cases delayed?
A) Depp is quite an anglophile so it surprises me he's so upset by the Sun story. Anyone in the Uk knows it's the gutter press and can't be relied on
B) Why is he clogging up our courts system that has gone into meltdown during COVID with so many cases delayed?
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DJWrongspeed
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DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
No it isn't. It's the tape recordings, the therapist notes, other evidence and the testimonies and the cross-examinations.
According to them, so far as far as I can see, all this is on Heard. She's been the abuser imo.
cupid_stunt
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Says the man that thinks the convicted rapist, Mike Tyson, is a modern day hero.
FridgeMagnet
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There was a piece in the Guardian with some lawyers complaining that their clients, with actual current domestic violence and access cases, couldn't get court dates whereas this guy can.
Though I've also read more than one legal type saying that actually the backlog from covid is just a blip on top of the existing backlog from the Tories having fucked it. The government has made a big deal out of it of course, as you'd expect.
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Numbers
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A conviction always being a truth of guilt.
girasol
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If he wins he gets a lot of money, and he's basically bankrupt.
girasol
Addicted to handstands!
On the first week, when JD was giving evidence it did sound that way, this week has been a very different story. For every nasty story Johnny Depp comes out with, there's a counter story by Amber. But of course, this is nothing more than HUGE PR war.
Nobody really knows the truth right now, so it's became about which experiences resonate the public the most. I have never met a woman who has lied about domestic abuse, but I have met abusive, addicted men who felt they were victims even though they were inflicting mental and physical pain. They felt they were being attacked, they were controlling and terrifying and life threatening for a fraction of the time and regular nice people most of the time. So, I'm inclined to believe her.
Just found this and, well, yeah... The fight to clear Johnny Depp’s name exposes an altogether nastier agenda | Catherine Bennett
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FridgeMagnet
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I've been following this slightly more than I normally would because of the unusual balance of testimony, but really, who the hell knows - all of this is being filtered through lawyers and then journalists.
I will say "fuck the Sun" however. They are no friends of domestic violence victims and actively make things worse (see the recent JK Rowling shit for the latest over many decades).
I will say "fuck the Sun" however. They are no friends of domestic violence victims and actively make things worse (see the recent JK Rowling shit for the latest over many decades).
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JimW
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Is that to do with it being libel rather than a prosecution for abuse though? (Don't know, just wondered)
FridgeMagnet
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Tbh I don't really know either - my understanding is that there's no inherent priority of cases within specific types of court, but that's it. This is the Guardian piece in question btw:
Star treatment for Depp trial branded ‘galling’ by lawyers amid huge backlog
Barristers query why court time is allowed during Covid-19 when many urgent family hearings are held remotely
Mogden
I like tea
It has been mostly tweeted live by this chap.
I would never claim to know what goes on behind closed doors but it appears to me Depp is a drunk, sometimes drugged buffoon with a lack of self confidence, despite appearances, and makes do with humour to cover his insecurities. He does not appear to me someone who revels in physical abuse but I can imagine his tongue can be sharp on occasion. That's no reason for someone to be physically abusive to him though. The accounts from Winona and Vanessa Paradis err on his side. Given his Winona/Wino Forever tattoo, I can't see that this is a new development to his personality so he's always been a bit of a mouthy cunt.
Heard on the other hand has a history of histrionics, if accounts by exes are to be believed, and even her own sister and Depp's security have commented on her physical behaviour.
Yes Depp is a pretty chap, alas his personality isn't to me, but I'd relish it putting the Sun under and maybe it will snowball into other cases being brought against papers like the Daily Fail too.
I would never claim to know what goes on behind closed doors but it appears to me Depp is a drunk, sometimes drugged buffoon with a lack of self confidence, despite appearances, and makes do with humour to cover his insecurities. He does not appear to me someone who revels in physical abuse but I can imagine his tongue can be sharp on occasion. That's no reason for someone to be physically abusive to him though. The accounts from Winona and Vanessa Paradis err on his side. Given his Winona/Wino Forever tattoo, I can't see that this is a new development to his personality so he's always been a bit of a mouthy cunt.
Heard on the other hand has a history of histrionics, if accounts by exes are to be believed, and even her own sister and Depp's security have commented on her physical behaviour.
Yes Depp is a pretty chap, alas his personality isn't to me, but I'd relish it putting the Sun under and maybe it will snowball into other cases being brought against papers like the Daily Fail too.
FridgeMagnet
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None of it's exactly flattering to him is it - though really it's not great news either.
krtek a houby
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Loved JD for years, esp in Ed Wood, Edward Scissorhands, Benny and Joon etc. His acting and on-screen presence was magnetic.
That said, if he has done what's alleged, then he can fuck off. It's tough when those you admire turn out to be shits. There's almost a feeling of betrayal. But wouldn't want to be blindly defending them, either. Because it's not you who's the victim, the one who has been physically abused.
That said, if he has done what's alleged, then he can fuck off. It's tough when those you admire turn out to be shits. There's almost a feeling of betrayal. But wouldn't want to be blindly defending them, either. Because it's not you who's the victim, the one who has been physically abused.
D'wards
IT'S YOUR DECISION DANIEL
The fantastic comedian, and pal of Depps, wrote this when the allegations were first made. She began to sue then abandoned it.
www.thewrap.com
Johnny Depp Is Being Blackmailed by Amber Heard - Here's How I Know (Guest Column) - TheWrap
Actor's friend, comic Doug Stanhope, says that Heard was "threatening to lie about him publicly in any and every possible duplicitous way if he didn't agree to her terms"
www.thewrap.com
Raheem
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I get the impression most people think Depp will win the case, and for all I know that's perfectly right and just.
It's disheartening, though, that the impression will be given of a powerful man being given the benefit of the doubt. It will probably be unwarranted (after all, the case is primarily about the Sun's behaviour, rather than his), but it will happen anyway. And it will serve to give female victims of dv a little less confidence in the justice system, as well as giving men's rights types a talking-point.
So we all lose. Not because of anything Depp or Heard may or may not have done, or because the verdict is wrong, but just because exaggerated importance is given to celebrity trials.
It's disheartening, though, that the impression will be given of a powerful man being given the benefit of the doubt. It will probably be unwarranted (after all, the case is primarily about the Sun's behaviour, rather than his), but it will happen anyway. And it will serve to give female victims of dv a little less confidence in the justice system, as well as giving men's rights types a talking-point.
So we all lose. Not because of anything Depp or Heard may or may not have done, or because the verdict is wrong, but just because exaggerated importance is given to celebrity trials.
Raheem
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For some reason, I'm hearing that in Woody Guthrie's singing voice.He filed for divorce after she pooed in his bed, calling it "an oddly fitting end to the marriage"
maomao
普費斯
Stanhope tried to take the rap for Louis CK as well didn't he? Kind of makes him an unreliable witness on this one.The fantastic comedian, and pal of Depps, wrote this when the allegations were first made. She began to sue then abandoned it.
Johnny Depp Is Being Blackmailed by Amber Heard - Here's How I Know (Guest Column) - TheWrap
Actor's friend, comic Doug Stanhope, says that Heard was "threatening to lie about him publicly in any and every possible duplicitous way if he didn't agree to her terms"
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