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Italy v New Zealand

I can understand having to cheat against the top sides, but having to con the officials against tiny New Zealand is pathetic.
 
Robbie Savage just said on 5Live that he now understands why he's hated, because he's irate at De Rossi for going down so easily and Savage admitted he's done it itself :D That doesn't really do it justice, hopefully it'll be recorded somewhere.
 
Anybody who dives the way the Italians have been doing should be ashamed. All that rolling around screaming and slapping hands on the grass. Jesus.

And against NEW ZEALAND as well!!! lol.
 
Clearly the Italians have nothing on the English captain.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here.

I'm not defending anybody who cheats. I don't see what your rather odd references to Steven Gerrard have to do with this game. But carry on if it makes you feel better.
 
They've obviously been taking lessons off this diving, cheating, ashamed Ita... oh wait.....
That's rather nicely done :D

While not defending Gerrard, it does feel there's an extra level of cynicism involved with the Italians, especially as they don't just fall over but act - and that's really acting - as if they've been shot in the face.

Of course, I'm an England fan, so I'll freely admit my viewpoint could be coloured by that.
 
That's rather nicely done :D

While not defending Gerrard, it does feel there's an extra level of cynicism involved with the Italians, especially as they don't just fall over but act - and that's really acting - as if they've been shot in the face.

Of course, I'm an England fan, so I'll freely admit my viewpoint could be coloured by that.

Yeh but in italy im sure they view diving/cheating as an 'art' as i've heard before...
 
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here.

I'm not defending anybody who cheats. I don't see what your rather odd references to Steven Gerrard have to do with this game. But carry on if it makes you feel better.

I'm simply pointing out that some of the rather theatrical dives by the Italians mean they might have been taking lessons from the equally theatrical England captain. Not really that difficult to fathom given that's what I said originally....
 
Yeh but in italy im sure they view diving/cheating as an 'art' as i've heard before...
In The Italian Job I'm pretty sure they talk about how in Italy deception is seen as part of the game and if you successfully 'cheat' you have simply done your job of trying to win for the team. It's not really seen as a matter of honour, they're much more pragmatic about it.
 
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