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US retailer Gap could close all of its own UK stores, putting thousands of jobs at risk, as it mulls shifting its operations to franchise-only in Europe.
Shops in the UK, France, Ireland and Italy could shut next summer, along with its UK-based European distribution centre, the retailer said.
Gap would not disclose the number of UK stores it has, nor the size of its workforce.
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The retailer reported a £740m loss in the three months to May.
Instead of operating its own stores, Gap said it was looking at whether to move to a franchise model. The retailer had 129 Gap-branded stores in Europe at the end of July, and about 400 franchise stores.




I wonder how the high streets in Europe are doing? I expect they are less chain-heavy that the UK?
 
I wonder how the high streets in Europe are doing? I expect they are less chain-heavy that the UK?

As some of you know I work as a freelance designer in the fashion trade. I went freelance about 20 years ago - I stopped working for the high street around 2005 - I might do the odd project gig for a long term client who supplys Next but thats it. The chain stores pay so badly I can't pay my bills on their rates. They're exploitative. And who can wait for 90 days net terms? I can't.

Anyway - wherever the virus has taken hold, the situation is pretty bad, but the big chains, many of them were already in debt up to their eyeballs so of course they're dropping like flies. It's bad in the states, big names have gone.

A mate of mine (another designer) went to a retail trade seminar about future trends where the speaker said - there's going to be a market correction, the market is going to really shrink down, you're going to have to accept it so decide what you're going to do. He said there was a lot of disbelief and nervous laughter. But a lot of us knew it was coming.

We're in late capitalism, the prices have deflated since the 80's. Go look on Pinterest at the old Next directories and the clothes - top quality made in Italy, look almost as nice as Stone Island. beautiful details, & finishing, quality buttons, jaquard knitted back neck labels and then look at the price. We're being sold absolute crap now. Profit margins are tiny and every few years something else has to be shaved off, in order to keep going.

Around 15-20 years ago, the chain stores began to stopped working with trading companies (middle men) on development and employed these teams themselves instead - but to save more cash, many jobs were recruited offshore near the factories instead such as merchandisers and shipping admin. But designers are best when they live in the marketplace that they design for, so they employed and based design teams based in their head offices. But this year, I'm hearing of entire design and development teams being made redundant. I would expect the product to suffer, they perhaps will just buy in and change things a bit. I've freelanced for Chinese factories before, perhaps this is how they'll be employed. Everything is changing fast now. I never thought I'd see the day that I'd stop working in China or make things in London again (I'd stopped that in the 1990's) but I'm doing more and more here, next steps is to try commercialise it more to bring the price down, that's done in design and machinery that you use.

And as well as getting rid of the design teams, what else is too expensive? Oh yeah, our shops, they need to be got rid of too. I wonder what goes next? Maybe they'll take the pockets off everything, like Primark does.

Gap going doesn't surprise me - who is it for anyway? Middle market chainstores, whats the point, people are skint and will go to Primark.
 
Pret are majority owned by Jab Holdings who are owned by billionaires Albert Reimann Sr. and Albert Reimann Jr.

A family who built the concentration camps for the Nazis and profited very very well from it.

Germany's second richest family with wealth over £30bn



They also own or have majority shares in Kunty Cream Doughnuts and some others


 
Never mind just the high street:
"Two-thirds of UK businesses were at risk of insolvency last month, according to official figures"

Two thirds!!! By the time spring comes its going to be utter carnage. Absolutely socialism or barbarism time
 
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Yup, fuck knows what's going to happen now.

If they want to kickstart it again once things start moving they will have to do something about business rates. It's not good having them crazily high if there's no one there to fucking pay them, they will have to work something out that allows retail to function.
 
I've never been to a Toby Carvery and I can't tell if those sad faces are ironic.
of course not
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Tobys are usually rammed, especially on a weekend, and have lots of tables....high turnover low margins perhaps? big rents? Certainly in big buildings
 
Both brands have been fucked and propped up by borrowing for at least 7 years, peobably longer. 😔😞
There's been a massive hollowing out of the high street. Like what happened with Debenhams.

The finance sector gutting the bricks and mortar.

British Land scoops Debenhams stores
Standard. February 15, 2005
THE property company British Land revealed today that it has bought 23 department store buildings from retailer Debenhams for £495m.

British Land said the deal would take the total value of its retail property portfolio above £6.4bn.

The stores total 3.28m square feet and are located in prime positions on high streets in major cities and towns throughout the country, including London (Oxford Street), Manchester, Cardiff and Chester. They are leased to Debenhams for 30 years (35 years in the case of Oxford Street and Manchester) at a total rent of £27.9m per annum from March 2005. Stephen Hester, British Land Chief Executive said, 'We believe the 23 stores, leased to one of the leading department store operators in the UK, provide an excellent addition to British Land's retail portfolio.

'The secure income growth is expected to be increasingly valuable with various asset management opportunities on top and in a sector well known to us.'
 

Couldn't happen to a nastier, thieving scumcunt.

Awful that so many jobs will be lost. Every penny that vile Green and his miserable family have needs to be sequestered and split among the staff.
 

Couldn't happen to a nastier, thieving scumcunt.

Awful that so many jobs will be lost. Every penny that vile Green and his miserable family have needs to be sequestered and split among the staff.

A long time coming - the book Damaged Goods is an excellent read. It's a shame because Top Shop was great back in it's heyday but after his behaviour many of us have boycotted it for years.
 

Couldn't happen to a nastier, thieving scumcunt.

Awful that so many jobs will be lost. Every penny that vile Green and his miserable family have needs to be sequestered and split among the staff.


I am sure he has made sure his Yacht and chattels are well ringfenced from the receivers.
 
The virus is really showing up the short sightedness of running your company with massive debt. Extracting capital from it and then leveraging debt against it. Normal practice and ok enough when times are good but it all collapses very quickly when there is any headwind.

Its just become such a common way of doing business and its just toxic for business and job security.
 
The virus is really showing up the short sightedness of running your company with massive debt. Extracting capital from it and then leveraging debt against it. Normal practice and ok enough when times are good but it all collapses very quickly when there is any headwind.

Its just become such a common way of doing business and its just toxic for business and job security.
That Warren Buffet (was it?) quote - 'When the tide goes out you can see who was swimming naked.'
 
No, they take Monaco or other citizenship.

Does she not have non-dom status? That's the perplexing system where you can keep full nationality, and the silly titles where applicable, whilst not being taxed on worldwide income. The result is that they reroute their UK income through businesses nominally registered in Monaco, Gibraltar or some remnant of the British Empire which still operates under the crown.

I say we use the knighthood as the first bargaining chip. If that doesn't work, award them a brand new, specially created honour: "Arise Parasitic Philip and Tina Green".
 
Just confirmed that the Arcadia Group has finally collapsed into administration.

Sir Philip Green’s Arcadia Group has collapsed into administration, putting 13,000 jobs at risk as the retail tycoon’s high street career ends in failure.

The owner of household names including Topshop, Topman, Miss Selfridge, Dorothy Perkins, Evans and Burton appointed administrators from Deloitte on Monday.

No immediate redundancies were made as a result of the appointment and stores will continue to trade.

The move will protect Arcadia from creditors while a buyer is sought for all or parts of the company. Green, 68, is not expected to bid for any of the assets.

More than ten buyers are already thought to be lining up for Topshop, including online specialist Boohoo, Mike Ashley’s Frasers Group, formerly known as Sports Direct, and a number of private equity players. Next and Marks & Spencer are also understood to be taking a look at Arcadia’s brands as they try to broaden their appeal online.

Gutted for the staff, but fuck Philip Green.

The administration also raises concerns for members of Arcadia’s pension fund, which has an estimated deficit of £350m.

The group’s pension fund will be assessed for entry into the Pension Protection Fund (PPF), the industry-backed pensions lifeboat.

And, fuck him again. :mad:

 
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