Is social progress really just gentrification?

[TruXta]

Nah, you've got the time-scale all wrong, class dynamics (as almost all social dynamics) change far too quickly for biological evolution to even start entering into the equations, other than as a very vague and very remote back-drop.

 

[Blagsta]

My point is that what changes the population in modern society is not evolution by natural selection but specialisation through sexual selection.

Biology is surely an influence in determining all human characteristics as is the environment so it seems reasonable to say that biology also plays a part in determining what we call "class".

What do you mean by "specialisation"?

 

[TruXta]

Maybe he means speciation.

 

[Blagsta]

Maybe he doesn't know what he means.

 

[TruXta]

Or that. Quite possibly that.

 

[dilberto]

If the nature of a society reflects the character of the population of that society, modern society which has changed radically and exponentially in recent times I would argue therefore reflects a change to the character of the people of modern society, just as the modern world is historically unprecedented in its nature this is reflected in the nature of the populations who live and work in those societies.

Essentially the population is being configured to suit the needs of the globalised economy rather than the economy being configured by the needs and skills of the surviving population. People are adapting to a new social environment which Man is not conditioned to survive in.

 

[TruXta]

These words, they don't mean anything, dilberto.

 

[invisibleplanet]

Eh? Economic determinism! 0/10

 

[kabbes]

Please explain your ideas in words and concepts you actually understand rather than things you once heard about on that show that time kthxbye

 

[dilberto]

What do you mean by "specialisation"?

What I mean by specialisation is that the increased economic and intellectual demands of the modern economy acts as a form of selection by means of its progressively higher living costs and educational levels which configures the population to meet the needs of the globalised economy rather than the economy reflecting the skills and needs of the surviving population creating a native underclass, mass immigration and cosmopolitanism etc..

A surviving culture is a balance of two essential functions, providing the material resources to support a population and regenerating the population by preserving its traditions and customs. Economic specialisation specialises in the first function and neglects the second. Modern developed economies are economically specialised and their characteristic affluence and demographic trends being evidence of the consequences of this form of specialisation.

If anyone still doesn't understand please ask a sensible question and I will try to explain further.

 

[TruXta]

Still a load of cobblers, dilberto. Try using some empirical (not made up) examples and see where that gets you. At the moment you're using terms like "selection", "specialisation" and "demands" in ways which are so vague they can mean just about anything.

 

[dilberto]

To whom it may concern:

I would like to take this opportunity to point out that I am submitting these posts merely for the purpose of discussion and not for peer review.

Thank you.

 

[Blagsta]

there's nothing to discuss

 

[TruXta]

Peer review is discussion, dilberto, you pompous fool. Frankly we're nowhere near that stage what with the waffle you're serving up.

 

[DaveCinzano]

http://www.clickhole.com/article/one-incredible-entrepreneur-saved-struggling-neigh-746