Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[SpookyFrank]

But I'm starting to see Intransigent Leave voters as sabateurs to be honest, their denial is now wilful and quite unforgiveable omo.

I'm not. The deal on the table is a piece of shit, and would commit us to an indefinite period of EU control. As a nation we should be able to leave and it appears that, in reality, we can't. Anyone who is angry about that has a right to be. I can well understand the people who would want, on the principle that you should never allow your behaviour to be controlled by threats, to tell the EU to fuck off and leave without a deal.

May has sabotaged this whole thing. May and her entire useless party. Barry from down the pub is not the real culprit here.

 

[philosophical]

The result of the referendum on the GFA is in conflict with the result of the brexit referendum.
The brexit referendum result is in conflict with the UK promises to Scotland at the time of their independence vote it seems to me.
There have been a number of referenda in the past, is there supposed to be a hierarchy of them?

 

[andysays]

Anyway, interesting timing with this ECJ announcement what with the five days of parliamentary debate just about to kick off. A cynic might wonder if it was deliberate...

 

[Kaka Tim]

Anyway, interesting timing with this ECJ announcement what with the five days of parliamentary debate just about to kick off. A cynic might wonder if it was deliberate...

dunno - they original petition was challenged by the uk gov in the high court, that challenge was over ruled a week or so back so it then went to ECJ. Cant see how the timing could be that precisely coordinated. And there are obvious and legitimate reasons to get the issue resolved ASAP.
still -

 

[mojo pixy]

I feel a little like that about No Deal. In it's way, it's impressive - the self-confidence in the nation. It's probably madness as well, but you have to note the balls of it.

Balls, or hubris. It's like the confidence of the drunk, 'hold our beer while we leave the EU .. nah fuckit, it'll be fine'

 

[Pickman's model]

dunno - they original petition was challenged by the uk gov in the high court, that challenge was over ruled a week or so back so it then went to ECJ. Cant see how the timing could be that precisely coordinated. And there are obvious and legitimate reasons to get the issue resolved ASAP.
still -

photoshopped cats are a particular bugbear for pigeons

 

[danny la rouge]

their denial is now wilful and quite unforgiveable omo.

What do we do with unforgivable people?

 

[krtek a houby]

What do we do with unforgivable people?

 

[Yossarian]

Steal their babies and destroy them with laser beams fired from our hearts? Seems a little harsh...

 

[danny la rouge]

Indeed. And that’s the terms of the debate, especially from hardline Remainers, isn’t it? That it’s a moral issue. It’s about right and wrong. Good and Evil.

 

[krtek a houby]

Indeed. And that’s the terms of the debate, especially from hardline Remainers, isn’t it? That it’s a moral issue. It’s about right and wrong. Good and Evil.

And Jesus. Holding the baby Jesus.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Steal their babies and destroy them with laser beams fired from our hearts? Seems a little harsh...

Catholics. Nuff said.

 

[Santino]

What do we do with unforgivable people?

I believe it was Derrida who pointed out that we don't think it necessary to forgive people who have done forgivable things, and that the only things we must forgive are the unforgivable.

 

[Pickman's model]

What do we do with unforgivable people?

there's the sacn for people like that

 

[Yossarian]

Catholics. Nuff said.

If they can explain a Holy Trinity where all three things are really the same thing but are all different from each other, maybe they're the ones to ask about the Irish border question.

 

[Pickman's model]

If they can explain a Holy Trinity where all three things are really the same thing but are all different from each other, maybe they're the ones to ask about the Irish border question.

tbh the protestants believe in the trinity too so a binary should present neither lot with problems

 

[Pickman's model]

Indeed. And that’s the terms of the debate, especially from hardline Remainers, isn’t it? That it’s a moral issue. It’s about right and wrong. Good and Evil.

liverpool and everton

 

[two sheds]

If they can explain a Holy Trinity where all three things are really the same thing but are all different from each other, maybe they're the ones to ask about the Irish border question.

Oooo me me I know this one. It's ice, steam and water isn't it.

 

[Pickman's model]

Oooo me me I know this one. It's ice, steam and water isn't it.

earth wind and fire
emerson lake and palmer
cream
jimi hendrix experience

 

[Lucy Fur]

Oooo me me I know this one. It's ice, steam and water isn't it.

grape, wine and piss

 

[Pickman's model]

grape, wine and piss

beer wine and brandy

 

[Kaka Tim]

Blood sweat and tears.
wine women and song.

 

[Pickman's model]

eat drink and be merry

 

[steveo87]

Brown
Red
No sauce at all

 

[Pickman's model]

bacon lettuce and tomato

 

[butchersapron]

Brown
Red
No sauce at all

Welcome to the third position.

 

[andysays]

In
Out
Shake it all about

 

[SpookyFrank]

If they can explain a Holy Trinity where all three things are really the same thing but are all different from each other, maybe they're the ones to ask about the Irish border question.

That would be an ecumenical matter.

 

[Kaka Tim]

In
Out
Shake it all about

finally we have a workable set of questions for the 2nd referendum!

 

[gosub]

BREAKING NEWS -

European Court of Justice Advocate General's opinion - UK can unilaterally revoke article 50.

One stage short of a full judgement at present, but 80% of judgements follow the Advocate General's opinion.

ETA:


Britain can end Brexit unilaterally says top EU court adviser | Devdiscourse News

That to me is telling and a mistake. It renders Art 50 not a tool for leaving but yet another divaesque mechanism from which to grandstand, without actually being able to DO anything.