Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[SpackleFrog]

The first thing that stands in the way of rail nationalisation is not having a government that wants to do it. Get that government and opinions vary as to what EU rules would or would not allow, and what could or could not be done in the name of national interest. Then there is the political angle to this quite aside from EU rules, in which countries that already have nationalised railways would find it difficult to insist on rules blocking it for the UK. The UK would not be in a powerless political position. But the whole thing is moot until you have a government that wants to do it.

This I completely agree with. But given that what you've said is correct, why don't you focus on getting a left govt into power instead of standing on the side lines and - let's face it - whining like a child who has had their sweets taken away.

 

[SpackleFrog]

I could imagine the UK actually doing OK out of trade deals post-brexit because countries that have a geopolitical opposition to the EU (Russia/the USA) and their many client states will offer favourable trade terms precisely to undermine the rump of the EU.

That's a bit of a tricky one - with China and the US in particular the rhetoric might often be geopolitical opposition to the EU but it's not necessarily reflected in foreign policy and economic strategy.

Might change if they think this potentially signals the end of the EU as a global economic power of course.

 

[xarmian]

The first thing that stands in the way of rail nationalisation is not having a government that wants to do it. Get that government and opinions vary as to what EU rules would or would not allow, and what could or could not be done in the name of national interest. Then there is the political angle to this quite aside from EU rules, in which countries that already have nationalised railways would find it difficult to insist on rules blocking it for the UK. The UK would not be in a powerless political position. But the whole thing is moot until you have a government that wants to do it.

Some still have nationalised railways because the EU deadline to open up access to private competition is 2020. The Fourth Railway Package explained

 

[DotCommunist]

50p brexit coin anyone? make your jokes about its actual post brexit value better than the twitter ones pls

e2a no budget thread yet, this could have gone in that thread

 

[Ranbay]

 

[Wilf]

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Mmmm... that bagel in the middle is making me hungry.

 

[Poi E]

50p brexit coin anyone? make your jokes about its actual post brexit value better than the twitter ones pls

e2a no budget thread yet, this could have gone in that thread

"Friendship with all nations" on the coin. No-one quite does hypocrisy like the British state. Hundreds of years at it, the murdering thieving cunts.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

"Friendship with all nations" on the coin. No-one quite does hypocrisy like the British state. Hundreds of years at it, the murdering thieving cunts.

Masters of doublethink.

 

[Yossarian]

Looks like they took the line from Thomas Jefferson's promise at his inauguration in 1801: "Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none."

I'm surprised they're celebrating Brexit with a quote from the author of the Declaration of Independence (from Britain)....

 

[Pickman's model]

you won't believe what the government did next

 

[Poi E]

That coin has especially sharp edges. Great at football matches.

 

[billbond]

Celebs on the turn

 

[krtek a houby]

Celebs on the turn

I feel so sorry for the way he's been treated by the elite and I hope he can survive the crisis.

 

[kabbes]

Tarrant is the key to this whole damn thing. Why didn’t I see it before?

 

[Yossarian]

Is that his final answer?

 

[Poi E]

Celebs on the turn

"...carry on very nicely because we're British". So much bullshit in such a few words. The self-deception of identity, the self-deception of historical rectitude.

 

[DotCommunist]

I can't make a decision until I have heard what Noel Edmunds has to say on the matter.

 

[Ranbay]

I can't make a decision until I have heard what Noel Edmunds has to say on the matter.

 

[andysays]

Clearly supporting a Deal or No Deal Brexit

 

[Ranbay]

Clearly supporting a Deal or No Deal Brexit

 

[Poi E]

Aw cmon, that was good.

 

[andysays]

Aw cmon, that was good.

If a little obvious...

 

[Ranbay]

I re-read it now... not awake yet.

 

[DotCommunist]

Bet he phones the Banker before doing anything these days. Just not lloyds

 

[skyscraper101]

So we've got Edmonds, Reid and Tarrant all firmly leave. Any other 80s breakfast radio DJs we haven't heard from? Has anyone called Bruno Brookes or Pat Sharpe?

 

[Poi E]

Pantheon of pricks on all sides. WTF did we do to deserve this shower of shits?

 

[Teaboy]

So we've got Edmonds, Reid and Tarrant all firmly leave. Any other 80s breakfast radio DJs we haven't heard from? Has anyone called Bruno Brookes or Pat Sharpe?

I think most of them are either dead, in jail or keeping a low profile.

 

[skyscraper101]

I think most of them are either dead, in jail or keeping a low profile.

I just did a quick scan of Mark Goodier's twitter account and he is definitely a Remainer.

 

[Supine]

So we've got Edmonds, Reid and Tarrant all firmly leave.

Clear evidence that we should remain

 

[butchersapron]

Police still not investigating Leave campaigns, citing ‘political sensitivities’


Police still not investigating Leave campaigns, citing ‘political sensitivities’

Police respond that only politicians who've even contacted them (it couldn't be to pressure them could it?) about the files they have only recently received - despite the claims of the remain groups of politicians in the article - is... the same group of remain fanatic politicians.

The response to this letter, from specialist crime commander Stuart Cundy, is devastating. He says the police only received the 2,000 documents relating to the case from the Electoral Commission last month and so they haven’t had nearly enough time to determine whether a criminal case can be brought against Vote Leave. What’s more, in response to the accusation of meddling, Cundy says ‘there has been no contact from any government representative’. He goes on to say that: ‘the only approach from any elected politician, political party, official or representative has been your correspondence, or similar correspondence from others seeking the MPS undertakes a wide ranging investigation into the EU referendum’.