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yeh but that's more likely to be a crash out than a remain within because of the previously unheard of degree of buffoonery of the may administration.

well - that's when it gets very interesting - the pressures against them doing that from a wide range of powerful interests - civil service, much of the media, the entire public sector, the education and research sector, big business, big finance, the house of lords, their own funders, factions within their own party, a big chunk of popular opinion, trade unions and opposition parties - will be severe - possibly irresistible.
If they cave in to that pressure it will split the party and there will be a ferocious backlash from the rabid end of the brexit bloc.
If they crash out it will split the party and there will be a ferocious backlash from everyone else.

May is a fucking dim wit not to have realised this straight away but instead she painted herself into a corner pretty much on day 1 and has been kicking the can down the road, hoping something will turn up ever since.
But nothing has turned up. the clown car of her government is still trundling remorselessly towards the oncoming juggernaut of reality.

(and of course - its jeremy corbyn's fault)
 
well - that's when it gets very interesting - the pressures against them doing that from a wide range of powerful interests - civil service, much of the media, the entire public sector, the education and research sector, big business, big finance, the house of lords, their own funders, factions within their own party, a big chunk of popular opinion, trade unions and opposition parties - will be severe - possibly irresistible.
If they cave in to that pressure it will split the party and there will be a ferocious backlash from the rabid end of the brexit bloc.
If they crash out it will split the party and there will be a ferocious backlash from everyone else.

May is a fucking dim wit not to have realised this straight away but instead she painted herself into a corner pretty much on day 1 and has been kicking the can down the road, hoping something will turn up ever since.
But nothing has turned up. the clown car of her government is still trundling remorselessly towards the oncoming juggernaut of reality.

(and of course - its jeremy corbyn's fault)
much was made in the run-up to 23/06/2016 about the importance of sovereignty. but may fuck it up from the off when she went to court to prevent the british legislature voting on the british departure from the eu. obvious how much importance can really be attached to the democratick will of the people and the supremacy of the commons. and then the judges who ruled on the issue were vilified as enemies of the people! :facepalm: either parliament is sovereign or it isn't and for may it's clearly not her first choice.
 
her first choice is and has always been her party ( or the party - she has always been an awkward unimaginative grammar school girl to lifestyle and lifetime tories)- the same party that is quite happy to let her commit political suicide at every opportunity and shoulder the blame for what she has willingly inherited (set up could be another perspective). if the party comes through this (whatever may happen) and survives with enough of a presence to get another stab at office, then brexit will have been considered a success.
 
her first choice is and has always been her party ( or the party - she has always been an awkward unimaginative grammar school girl to lifestyle and lifetime tories)- the same party that is quite happy to let her commit political suicide at every opportunity and shoulder the blame for what she has willingly inherited (set up could be another perspective). if the party comes through this (whatever may happen) and survives with enough of a presence to get another stab at office, then brexit will have been considered a success.
i daresay there'll be sufficient stabs for each of them
 
Talking about a revolution ...

Weep for Brexit: the British dash for independence has failed

Weep for Brexit: the British dash for independence has failed

Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
7 June 2018 • 11:06am

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Labour has now lurched twice, first towards the customs union and this week calling for 'full access to the EU’s single market'
Brexiteers, bring out your black suits of mourning. Grieve with private dignity. The quixotic bid for British independence has failed.

There will be no return to full sovereign and democratic self-rule in March 2019, or after the transition, or as far as the political eye can see. Britain will be bound and hemmed until the latent contradictions of such a colonial settlement cause a volcanic national uprising, as they surely must.

The Westminster class is edging crablike towards a double embrace of the EU single market and the customs union, the full EU package but without a veto in the European Council, or Euro-MPs with heft in the dominant blocs of Strasbourg, or judges on the European Court...




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