Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[DotCommunist]

its basically tuechters id unmodified by superego

 

[stethoscope]

its basically tuechters id unmodified by superego

Innit

 

[philosophical]

how did you get from this 'i assumed' to your current invitation to 'make manifest your threats', in the light of my constant position that no threats were intended?

you invented these threats, my lovely, and i'd be grateful if you could uninvent them pronto.

Other whacks are available?
You wrote that, it is a threat of violence from you towards me.
Not difficult to understand really.
You may well want to deny it but that is an issue for you, initially you let the Genie of your desire out of the bottle.
Perhaps 'whacks' are the ultimate destination of debates you engage in.

 

[philosophical]

You barely read it and you know damn well you didn't, as your quick reactionary reply merely shows. You have absolutely no intention of having a genuine, honest discussion here at all.

I do have that intention, even through the melee of cunting off I have been subject to.

 

[Pickman's model]

Other whacks are available?
You wrote that, it is a threat of violence from you towards me.
Not difficult to understand really.
You may well want to deny it but that is an issue for you, initially you let the Genie of your desire out of the bottle.
Perhaps 'whacks' are the ultimate destination of debates you engage in.

i ask again: how did you get from your 'i assumed' to your invitation to 'make manifest your threats'? please describe the evolution of your belief threats had been made, in the light of my constant declaration that no threats had been made. and try to keep it honest, not a repetition of this mealy-mouthed lying like your post quoted.

 

[stethoscope]

I do have that intention, even through the melee of cunting off I have been subject to.

if you'd shown one iota of respect and good faith for the forum and its posters you waded into with your loaded and entirely innacurate vilifying first post, and at least conceded that early on instead of knowing you've been an idiot now but dug your heels in too far, that could have happened. This is no-ones fault but your own.

 

[philosophical]

Philosophical, if we wanted a perfect example of liberal sneering, you provide it. In fact if we wanted an example of the attitudes that drove people into voting brexit, you provide that too. 2 years on and no lessons learned, no reflection. All you've got is clinging on to the view that the bulk of people are thick racists. You really are what is wrong with British politics.

So what is your solution to the Irish border issue then? Your post is an example of the shoot the messenger style response from the ignorant who won't take responsibility for their action, and use pigeon holing as a diversion.

 

[Pickman's model]

So what is your solution to the Irish border issue then? Your post is an example of the shoot the messenger style response from the ignorant who won't take responsibility for their action, and use pigeon holing as a diversion.

in the context you could have used a better choice of phrase.

 

[not-bono-ever]

you are not really engaging here are you ?

 

[Pickman's model]

A fan or censorship or persuasion?

congratulations on your 100th post on the thread

 

[philosophical]

he wouldn't know honesty if it offered him a free meal at a fancy restaurant on the strand.

I at least know that an attempt at reasoning is a development from threats of violence.

 

[Pickman's model]

you are not really engaging here are you ?

i like to think i am.

 

[philosophical]

i ask again: how did you get from your 'i assumed' to your invitation to 'make manifest your threats'? please describe the evolution of your belief threats had been made, in the light of my constant declaration that no threats had been made. and try to keep it honest, not a repetition of this mealy-mouthed lying like your post quoted.

It is down to you to explain the term 'other whacks are available', not for me to assist your wriggling.

 

[Wilf]

So what is your solution to the Irish border issue then? Your post is an example of the shoot the messenger style response from the ignorant who won't take responsibility for their action, and use pigeon holing as a diversion.

Which actions am I not taking responsibility for?

 

[not-bono-ever]

not you, him. the lewisham dynamo, Golden boy, the pride of Catford of whatever his ring moniker is

 

[philosophical]

if you'd shown one iota of respect and good faith for the forum and its posters you waded into with your loaded and entirely innacurate vilifying first post, and at least conceded that early on instead of knowing you've been an idiot now but dug your heels in too far, that could have happened. This is no-ones fault but your own.

You don't hold the keys to respect. If you wish to read back and contemplate the abuse I have received here you might wish to reflect on the meaning of respect.

 

[philosophical]

Which actions am I not taking responsibility for?

Apologies. I assumed you voted brexit.

 

[Pickman's model]

I at least know that an attempt at reasoning is a development from threats of violence.

yeh. this would be a return to the post which you admit above you assumed contained a threat of violence. you have moved from this assumption to a solid belief that there was a threat of violence. if i had threatened violence, as i've said, i would have done so in no uncertain terms. i did not threaten violence towards you, any belief i did is solely in your own mind.

 

[philosophical]

not you, him. the lewisham dynamo, Golden boy, the pride of Catford of whatever his ring moniker is

Others accuse me of sneering, but I would suggest this post is a good example of sneering in itself.

 

[Pickman's model]

Apologies. I assumed you voted brexit.

yeh. you've assumed a lot of people have, and not always accurately

 

[stethoscope]

You don't hold the keys to respect. If you wish to read back and contemplate the abuse I have received here you might wish to reflect on the meaning of respect.

Your first post was the problem, you can argue out of this all you want now you're trying to put on a brave face, but that started it.

 

[Pickman's model]

It is down to you to explain the term 'other whacks are available', not for me to assist your wriggling.

i cannot understand how you see that as a threat of violence to you. i didn't introduce the concept of people getting whacked in the head into this thread, you did. you said it was unlikely you'd get a horse kick: but other whacks in the head ARE available, for example bumping your head on a door. i see you can't explain to me how you got from assuming to knowing it was a threat of violence. you're too embarrassed to show the paucity of your thought process. but you might like to contemplate it yourself.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Others accuse me of sneering, but I would suggest this post is a good example of sneering in itself.

whateves, I tried to assist and give you some pointers as to engaging and understanding the background early on if you look back. You clearly want to have to piss taken out of your, else you would have changed tack.

 

[Pickman's model]

whateves, I tried to assist and give you some pointers as to engaging and understanding the background early on if you look back. You clearly want to have to piss taken out of your, else you would have changed tack.

who'd have thought one man could contain so much urine.

 

[Wilf]

So what is your solution to the Irish border issue then? Your post is an example of the shoot the messenger style response from the ignorant who won't take responsibility for their action, and use pigeon holing as a diversion.

It's interesting that you classify my post as a diversion. The real diversion here is your post, beginning as it does with 'So...'. The 'So' being a rather inelegant way of signalling that you are about to ignore the post or deal with the issues raised. You are still stuck with characterising leave voters as thick racists - still no engagement as to why millions interpreted their experiences in a particular way and voted as they did.

I didn't vote for brexit, didn't vote actually. In the absence of a lexit I felt unable to translate my contempt of EU neo-liberalism into a vote. But that doesn't stop me thinking about this as the culmination of 40 years of neo-liberalism, 40 years of contempt. I don't see any signs at all that you are willing to get beyond your visceral contempt for those voters.

 

[Wilf]

Your first post was the problem, you can argue out of this all you want now you're trying to put on a brave face, but that started it.

Yep.

 

[krtek a houby]

It is down to you to explain the term 'other whacks are available', not for me to assist your wriggling.

 

[Rob Ray]

 

[butchersapron]

Got to admit, was thinking last night that what this debate needed was a contributor who was a mix of:





Really moved it along.

 

[teqniq]

But it hasn't really move it anywhere much has it? A clarification on leftward-leaning reasons for voting leave and a wheelbarrow-load of sneering assumptions and trollery from our man in Lewisham.