Is America burning? (Black Lives Matter protests, civil unrest and riots 2020)
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ska invita
back on the other side
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Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
I can’t validate this video from a few days ago, but as Pickman’s says, they have their orders, & they’re in control.
“Don’t kill ‘em, hit ‘em hard”
I thought this video is maybe worth a watch because it provides a useful basic overview of the situation by placing police violence in historical and contemporary context, and it also posits potential ways forward, rooted in community self organising and social solidarity, which sounds good to me at least.
petee
no gods, no malarkey
Boogaloo members appear to hold conflicting ideological views with some identifying as anarchists and others rejecting formal titles. Some pockets of the group have espoused white supremacy while others reject it. But they have at least two things in common: an affinity for toting around guns in public and a "boogaloo" rallying cry, which is commonly viewed as code for another US civil war.
Heavily armed extremist movement gains traction
Benjamin Ryan Teeter was at his home in Hampstead, N.C., when the call to action came. It was an alert from the heart of the raging protests in Minneapolis, posted on an online forum by a fellow member of the Boogaloo movement, a loosely knit group of heavily armed, anti-government extremists.
www.cnn.com
it would be heartless to deprive you of the chance to look the rest up yourself.
Doodler
You're quite nice when you smile
Boogaloo members appear to hold conflicting ideological views with some identifying as anarchists and others rejecting formal titles. Some pockets of the group have espoused white supremacy while others reject it. But they have at least two things in common: an affinity for toting around guns in public and a "boogaloo" rallying cry, which is commonly viewed as code for another US civil war.
Heavily armed extremist movement gains traction
Benjamin Ryan Teeter was at his home in Hampstead, N.C., when the call to action came. It was an alert from the heart of the raging protests in Minneapolis, posted on an online forum by a fellow member of the Boogaloo movement, a loosely knit group of heavily armed, anti-government extremists.
it would be heartless to deprive you of the chance to look the rest up yourself.
Apart from the in-group bit at the end that's helpful. I had heard of the Boogaloos but didn't know what stance if any they had over the George Floyd protests.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Bellingcat have published some useful stuff on it as well.
www.bellingcat.com
The Boogaloo Movement Is Not What You Think - bellingcat
Translations:English (UK)Русский (Россия)On May 26th, crowds gathered in Minneapolis, Minnesota, to protest the death of 46-year-old George Floyd at the hands of the city’s police department. Floyd was black. Many of the protesters were people of color. The department fired four policemen that...
www.bellingcat.com
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
It's being reported that the entire Buffalo PD goon squad has resigned “in disgust” at the suspension of two of its members for fucking up that older dude and making blood pump out of his ear, because they're super classy, not total snowflakes, and definitely all about the justice:
www.investigativepost.org
thehill.com
Police crowd-control unit resigns in protest - Investigative Post
Officers and union object to suspension of two cops whose shove seriously injured a protester and generate national media attention.
www.investigativepost.org
57 Buffalo officers resign from Emergency Response Team after two cops suspended
The entire Buffalo Police Department Emergency Response Team has resigned after the department suspended two officers without pay when a video surfaced showing them pushing over a 75-year…
thehill.com
Doodler
You're quite nice when you smile
Bellingcat have published some useful stuff on it as well.
The Boogaloo Movement Is Not What You Think - bellingcat
Translations:English (UK)Русский (Россия)On May 26th, crowds gathered in Minneapolis, Minnesota, to protest the death of 46-year-old George Floyd at the hands of the city’s police department. Floyd was black. Many of the protesters were people of color. The department fired four policemen that...
Thanks, that's an interesting-looking piece, am reading it now.
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
...acceptable losses...collateral damage...making omelettes...only following orders...
ska invita
back on the other side
theyre right to resign - that's their job! its what they're paid to do! And now its not okay somehow? must be very confusing for them
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Normally I'm in favour of worker solidarity, buuuuuuuut...
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ska invita
back on the other side
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
The French had the right idea
Bellingcat have published some useful stuff on it as well.
The Boogaloo Movement Is Not What You Think - bellingcat
Translations:English (UK)Русский (Россия)On May 26th, crowds gathered in Minneapolis, Minnesota, to protest the death of 46-year-old George Floyd at the hands of the city’s police department. Floyd was black. Many of the protesters were people of color. The department fired four policemen that...
Just read that long piece -- it's scarey shit!
I hope I go through my (real) life never meeting anyone like those types
And I have no plans to go anywhere near the US any time soon .....
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
As an aside, Christopher Browning's Ordinary Men, which summarises a study of one unit's involvement in the Holocaust, based on statements made by the participants themselves, is grimly instructive.
The unit is Reserve Police Battalion 101, a 500-strong group of very average, middle-aged German men, conscripted into a paramilitary/gendarmerie-type police formation in a time of war, and sent to Poland. They are armed and uniformed, but they are not soldiers, and fight no battles. They are police officers, but they enforce no laws and detect no crimes. They are there to guard, to threaten, to search, to coerce, and ultimately to kill. They are not told explicitly what they will be doing before they go. Even after they arrive, they are only given very narrow, task-orientated instructions. And yet without in any real sense being forced to, together these ordinary men killed, murdered, slaughtered 83,000 Jews - 38,000 by gunshot in ‘police actions’, and 43,000 ‘deported’ to Treblinka death camp. Those whose lives were directly extinguished by the men of 101 were typically shot at very close range, close enough to feel warm breath on their skin, close enough for the shooters to be ‘gruesomely besmirched’ by every bullet they delivered into soft flesh and brittle skull and spongy organ. 166 souls snuffed out, 76 at touching distance, on average, per ordinary man.
Browning largely strips away ideological motivations, and focuses on what humans can be made to do to other humans, not by force, but by circumstance and expectation and by the process of breaking down ghastly and complex politico-military policy goals into small, repetitive, discrete parcels of horrific labour for individuals to carry out - divorcing thought from action.
Some take to the job much more enthusiastically than others. Some are transparently sadistic. But some quietly tell their NCO or their officer that they can't stomach any more, today, and are given less distressing jobs for now, taking this thing to that place, or guarding a perimeter, or taking a message to headquarters. Many rely on alcohol to fog over their feelings. Yet at no point does everybody stop. At all times the massacres and train embarkations continue. The machine trundles on, even if periodically parts are swapped out.
It becomes not a matter of this is wrong, but of I cannot do this right now. These ordinary men are not - unlike their victims - compelled at bayonet point; they compel themselves through deference to the whole, to power, to that which they consider ‘authority’, to the body of men to which they belong. To some there is the commitment to Reich und Volk, to the bonds of blood and soil, to a national duty, but mostly it is the in sickness and in health conscious stoicism of codependent relationships. Men doing bad things because if they don't do them, the man beside them will have to do their share too. Men motivated not by a moral code, but by a desire not to be seen as letting down his comrades. Men more worried by shame than slaughter. Men who respond to the horror by considering that this is horrific but it will nevertheless be done, rather than this is horrific and must be stopped. Men who see ways to personally abdicate their direct involvement in the horror - by physical absence, mental absence, ethical justification, pragmatic justification - but who never seek to end the horror itself, because the horror is inevitable and a fact and I just have to do what I have to do to get through this. Me, myself, I; not him, her, them. Pain and trauma is a personal tragedy, not something inflicted upon the actual victims, whose faces quickly all blend into anonymity.
And does any of this matter at all, to the 83,000 corpses they leave behind? No. Dead men, women and children cannot absolve you of anything, not least your murder of them; no more than George Floyd can look upon his own cadaver and the choking chemical clouds that hang over America's towns and cities and consider this to be ‘a great day’. All that is left is the living, and the living can frame their actions any way they choose.
But when the living choose to frame matters in terms of how I didn't personally do anything wrong, yet still stand in armoured phalanxes of anonymous brute force because thin blue line or law and order or it's not perfect but it's all we've got, the body count arithmetic never really changes. You're just one goon in a helmet who skived off for half an hour because your nerves couldn't take whetting your nightstick just now; the other 499 can take up the slack on your 166.
And in thirty minutes' time you will always find reason to rejoin the ranks, because at any point you could have stopped this, and you did not. You always saw yourself as one of 500, never one of 83,000.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
It looks like he had picked a police helmet up and was trying to give it to themwell we have to admit the old duffer was being deliberately provocative by trying to talk to them
Their excuse of we were only following orders’ has sadly been heard far too many times.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
At least the streets of buffalo are safer today
ruffneck23
front left
This is good to see...
www.boredpanda.com
35 Pics Showing The Other Side Of The George Floyd Protests That The Mainstream Media Is Reluctant To Share
Protests have erupted all over the US over the death of George Floyd. Cities are imposing curfews and states are activating National Guard members to calm down the demonstrators but they continue to express pain and anger with chants, signs and outbreaks of violence.
www.boredpanda.com
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