planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Kinda hard when he's banned.
Is America burning? (Black Lives Matter protests, civil unrest and riots 2020)
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Kinda hard when he's banned.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I think it depends who's saying it tbh. When it's Trump and his supporters, I'm not sure he means anything more than 'white people who support the demos'.
bimble
floofy
One of those things where you write half a post in the morning and then think why bother and then it reappears in your box hours later.
bimble
floofy
Yes that’s true. But he’s a massive racist so you know.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
bimble
floofy
For a weak yes.
Indeliblelink
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Audio of Trump's conference call to State Governors.
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The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Actually got banned for a post that was worth debating exploring . The other shite he posted no action .
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I’ve only seen one mention of it online and it was the music industry not social media. I’m not clear what they mean by blackout as I didn’t click on the link. Maybe just not stream music tomorrow? Or listen to it at all?
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
it a music industry protest againt the situation its even on the bbc
George Floyd: Music industry announces 'blackout'
Record labels say they will not release new music this week, as musicians join protests in the US.www.bbc.co.uk
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Not sure how me not listening to music for a day will change things. It's impossible & I'll be home alone, so no-one is going to notice if I don't listen to music. How about encouraging people to only listen to black artists instead? Also, I heard on 6 Music that 1Xtra are having a special black power/history day - thought it was tomorrow, but can't actually find news items on it.
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Ax^
Silly Rabbit
oh lets not give the guy is banned from almost any thread on here related to trump and who also whined about it on friday night
the benefit of the doubt, He knew when he posted the link to Andy Ngo that he had cross the line and was half arsely attempting to divert criticism with his last message
if he travel's in that lane of the internet maybe he should just fuck off
anyways this is not a Marty1 thread so fuck him
bimble
floofy
But ‘both sides’ is trumpian bollocks, it’s a lot more complex than that I think. Has done my head in tbh trying to get an understanding of what’s all going on right now and I think that’s because it’s far more complicated than any one sentence could possibly hold. For sure a lot of people are using this to try to further their various agendas but there’s not just ‘2 sides’.
Gimigimi
leaky cyborg
Petee gave a great summary of all the concrete reasons. I wanted to add that America's government and institutions are widely regarded as illegitimate now by huge segments of the population - particularly people under, say, 40 or so. Ever since 9/11 America has taken hit after hit - the continuous militarization of the police, the government repeatedly and blatantly lying to the population and not even trying to hide it (iraq, stuff from wikileaks), the bailout of the rich and fucking of everyone else over and over (2008 and also during the present economic crash), and evidence of even darker motivations among the oligarchy (fucking Epstein). Every one of these events permanently disconnected some Americans from really ever being able to trust the government or even give it the benefit of the doubt. Although the poor have been struggling for a long time, things were holding together through the 2010s, probably because it was still possible to make money. Now the economy has imploded again, and this one looks worse than 2008. The government's misleading unemployment rate says ~15%; this is bullshit, as that rate has always been. Millions and millions of people are facing eviction and food insecurity, and the President sits on Twitter complaining about how it's all everyone else's fault.
The far right has adopted a militia/siege mindset and views the government as the enemy (despite worshipping cops, which is mainly just due to their confused fetish for power), and their most dangerous fantasies have been stoked daily by the president. They aren't quite as numerous as the media makes it seem, but they are extremely dangerous. Meanwhile, the "far left" is more numerous now than perhaps at any time since the 1930s. Huge numbers of Americans identify as socialist now, and while you can probably argue about whether or not their specific beliefs are really socialist, the point is that they don't view the two-party monopoly as legit and they don't buy into the vague bullshit Democrats come out with anymore. Finally, among the large number of Americans who don't identify with parties or political philosophies, even here there is a more general sense that corruption and decay are dominant. Everyone has a different idea of why or a pet theory they picked up from the internet. And nobody has any political solutions that can actually be implemented because of the rigidity of the Constitution and the two-party oligarchical lock on power.
The lynching of George Floyd was horrific beyond description. It's not my place to say what black people thought of it - many are doing so quite well. It's the latest and most brutal in a series of high-profile police killings of innocent black people, many of whom fear being murdered by agents of the state every day. I'm going to go out on a limb here though and say that this video resonated with many Americans of every ethnicity at a metaphorical level. Floyd was suffocated to death, over a long period of time, for no reason other than sadism, while bystanders clearly explained the situation in multiple ways. The response they got was "This is why you don't do drugs, kids" - the killing was intentional and exemplary. Metaphorically, I see George Floyd as America itself, huge swaths of the American population. We've been suffocated for years. What's happening is out in the open, people have explained the situation again and again, and none of it makes any fucking difference because the people in power apparently enjoy watching us suffer. Biden might have won the nomination, either through DNC fuckery or through right-leaning suburban Democrats and loads of people living in retirement homes afraid of Bernie and higher taxes, but nobody actually likes him or defends any of his policies. "Centrism" as an ideology requires a belief in the systems of government as legitimate and that's utterly dead now. Also everyone's been cooped up in their houses going insane for two months. If there was a Gallup poll right now asking Americans to agree or disagree with the statement "Let it all fucking burn", I would expect "agree" would win easily.
I've just spent a few minutes trying to work out what the action involves, and I'm no wiser.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
That’s why imo it was worth exploring .
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
Maybe it not from someone who spends his time looking for non white voices to spread his wanky idiology
Tankus
Amused OAP
the only person I have ever put on ignore on this forum ..ever ...ever (for a couple of months only ..pre covid as that's been a leveller and an absolute quantifier of the true nature of political ideologies ...its easily measured in corpses )
.......in the one and a half decades I've been here (pre marginal urban gentrification , mellowing of attitudes with age ) lots of caveats cos I'm munted
I consider it a a test of my humanity .and wellbeing .....or whats left of it ..to entertain the outpourings of the red hatters and not have a stroke
so .....no ....
meanwhile Trump is gonna
‘Activate’ Bill Barr ...
boomtish
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
aye a UK Amazon driver who spends his days premoting trump was a little off putting for us all
Can i suggest if you want to talk about his ban move over to this thread
America has been burning for 6 days its a bit more important that the fella having to rely on dodgy far right links on youtube for entertainment for a week
For what,did he post the truth about something?
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two sheds
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