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Is America burning? (Black Lives Matter protests, civil unrest and riots 2020)

Anyone seen the vid clip where the demonstrators hand over a bloke smashing the pavement for stones over to the Police?
 
Id be interested to hear, particularly from US posters, whats people think is different about what's happening now, compared to previous reactions to police killings.

good question. just thoughts in a few spare minutes:
  • floyd's killing comes very soon after arbury's. in arbury's case there was some traction with the usual excuses, he had previous, he looked like someone else, "justice for the mcmichaels". but things were getting warm even after that. in floyd's case, the minneapolis police just lied (he wasn't resisting arrest) and the killing was done so coolly (watch the video, if you can stand it). i have not seen one "justice for chauvin" post anywhere, though i'm sure you could find one if you looked really hard.
  • everyone's stressed by the economic damage from the coronavirus, or i should say, Washington's economic policy about how to handle the coronavirus, which has left alot of people in a pretty damaged state.
  • the open violence and threats of violence over the past months from rightwingers worried about their haircuts had already raised the temperature considerably.
  • and trump. four years of stoking this has come to fruit, and now he's being written off. recently here i repeated a trope that trump might use the nixon playbook - look at those violent goons, i'll take care of that. but it's past that now imo. even center-rightists (david frum, bill kristol) have come out in explicit support of the protests. of course trump could open his mouth tomorrow to re-assert himself but nobody's scared anymore.

some more:
 
I love the assumption that the arsehole breaking up the ground is antifa. Totally logical. But he's not even dressed all in black, and that's what antifa conscripts - sorry, recruits - wear, isn't it?

you think the amount of stuff on the internet being posted gleefully online was part of a scheme to drive a wedge been the communities involved and make it a black versus white issue

:hmm:
 
Protestor killed in Omaha by bar owner:

Omaha police are investigating the death of James Scurlock, a 22-year-old protester.
The shooting occurred at about 11 p.m. Saturday in the city's Old Market area and within a couple of blocks of where protesters had gathered. Police said they arrested someone within the hour in connection with the shooting.

Scurlock was shot outside an Old Market bar called The Hive, near 12th and Harney streets.

Authorities would not release the shooter's name, but the World-Herald confirmed it was Jake Gardner, who owns The Hive.

Hours before the Saturday night shooting, Gardner posted on Facebook about protecting his business.
"Just when you think 'what else could 2020 throw at me?' Then you have to pull 48 hours of military style firewatch," he posted.

Douglas County Attorney Don Kleine said he hoped to make a determination soon on whether to file charges.


 
you think the amount of stuff on the internet being posted gleefully online was part of a scheme to drive a wedge been the communities involved and make it a black versus white issue

:hmm:

It's not just that. If that person was white (I couldn't tell) then they could have been alt-right, or unaligned, or wanting to support the movement and having no idea about how to do it in a way that really helps because they've spent too long playing war games at home, or anything, really. They've gone straight to antifa.

And although it's good that he (I think he) was turned over to the cops, it didn't look pleasant for him either.
 
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you think the amount of stuff on the internet being posted gleefully online was part of a scheme to drive a wedge been the communities involved and make it a black versus white issue

:hmm:
Yep, for 'antifa' read 'white'. In many instances, it doesn't mean anything more than that, I don't think, and it strikes me as a calculated attempt to deny the ground to anyone other than black people to come out and protest against the murder of black people.
 
Black Out Tuesday seems to be "a thing" and involves, as far as I can see, solely not posting on social media. Not sure how that helps?
 
Yep, for 'antifa' read 'white'. In many instances, it doesn't mean anything more than that, I don't think, and it strikes me as a calculated attempt to deny the ground to anyone other than black people to come out and protest against the murder of black people.
Nah. I’ve seen lot of good stuff, white people using their bodies as shields and barriers because they are aware that they are going to get treated very differently by the police. nobody is saying that white people should stay home but stuff like this is just wtf.
 
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