Is America burning? (Black Lives Matter protests, civil unrest and riots 2020)
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Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
Plod suppressing the media seems to be on the rise now. It wouldn’t surprise me that these orders have come from the very top.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
they don't want to media giving the idea that its not the Radical left/ antifa leading the riots
Regardless of what the arrest figure show
gotta kinda worry about a country at see protests in 25 states and tried to blame it on a outsider and other intreloppers
and none of it could be normal citizen anger that this happening
that and 2 weeks ago armed malita were on the street with presidencal backing
Regardless of what the arrest figure show
gotta kinda worry about a country at see protests in 25 states and tried to blame it on a outsider and other intreloppers
and none of it could be normal citizen anger that this happening
that and 2 weeks ago armed malita were on the street with presidencal backing
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
It occurs to me that when Donald Trump was elected, this was pretty much where I expected things to end up.
I was hoping for assassination
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
America seems to burn with increasing intensity ever year and its really quite terrifying.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I'm all for mass protests, but, what's happened to social distancing?
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Would this be an acceptable way of handling the situation? Was going to post it in a FB discussion, but thought better of it...
Community leaders and politicians can declare the particular police force a racist organisation and say they have no confidence in it to police the community.
Citizens should actively be dissuaded from joining.
An appeal would be made to 'good cops' to quit or strike.
Citizens would be advised not to cooperate with the police over certain crimes.
It would be up to the force to convince the public they are doing everything can to root out the racist element and ensure shit like this never happens again. Then confidence would be restored.
Community leaders and politicians can declare the particular police force a racist organisation and say they have no confidence in it to police the community.
Citizens should actively be dissuaded from joining.
An appeal would be made to 'good cops' to quit or strike.
Citizens would be advised not to cooperate with the police over certain crimes.
It would be up to the force to convince the public they are doing everything can to root out the racist element and ensure shit like this never happens again. Then confidence would be restored.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
It’s not a question of ‘rooting out the racist element‘. The whole barrel is rotten
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
So what do you propose as legitimate action?
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
a distant memory
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
i don't propose anything
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
I don't think they need specific orders any more. The administration has created a climate where hating the media and thinking of them as enemies is politically correct, and the police unions have been doing the same. But it's not exactly a new thing that a lot of US police behave like an occupying force either (enhanced by militarisation post-Iraq). I mean that's how we got here.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
As tempting as it to think it I'm not sure whether these Antifa folk are actually issued with a uniform , badge that identifies them as such tbh even to black protestors and given a standard set of tactics and politics for demonstrations.. Nor do I think the kid is a fully delegated official from Antifa. I think in this case rather than one black protestor speaking on behalf of all black people to an official representative of the whole of American antifa , its a case of a protestor firmly telling some no doubt well meaning but carried away kid that certain calls for action in certain situations are not just risqué but irresponsible.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
the latter part of what you say is bang on the money , the amount of arms and equipment that have been made available in the post overseas military intervention era and issued or purchased by the Police in the States is astonishing.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
This is especially true when you see how an awful lot of them are equipped - compared to over here or in Europe, they appear to have not a lot of protective equipment. In the footage and pictures loads of them have a helmet and padding that is probably sold as "tactical", but its not that often you see a shield and quite rare to see someone with proper gloves or protective overalls.
However loads of them seem to have ranged weapons of one kind or another, or long sticks and are still armed - which probably guarantees that they will shoot / hit out.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
If all the 'good cops' quit, and decent people are dissuaded from joining, what's left?
bimble
floofy
This but the trump regime has been telling people that Antifa is something like a clearly defined enemy with badges and everything for years now.
The woman who wrote that tweet thinks she can recognise and count them in a crowd
but I don’t know what method she uses for that, basically don’t know what the word means to her.
I think trump knows it’s not actually a real thing the way he’s been painting it (singular org with masses ranks taking orders probably from soros etc) has just found it very useful to conjure .
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
The scum of the earth
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
The tactic seems to be that to protect themselves in close quarters they will just be able to use random overwhelming violence. Lots and lots of tear gas as a compliance tool seems standard - just wandering around spraying it at people regardless of what they are doing - plus the paintballs (which are filled with CS powder) and "less than lethal" rounds at basically anyone they see.
They also seem to often just wander round in small separated groups rather than using any sort of formation. They may start with the latter but break out quickly.
It's actually a testament to the generally non violent nature of the protestors that this hasn't led to anything worse because it's not going to get you very far if people really do want to hurt you. It's what makes it feel more like domestic terrorism than anything else to me.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
It's not post overseas mission, it's been going on rather longer than that, see eg Peter kraska's 2001 book 'militarizing the American criminal justice system'
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