HS2 high-speed London-Birmingham route rail project - discussion

[teuchter]

Would it be a similar high speed link though?

As far as I understand from details elsewhere, the route & spec would be pretty much exactly what was planned for HS2.

 

[prunus]

As far as I understand from details elsewhere, the route & spec would be pretty much exactly what was planned for HS2.

HS too then.

 

[Dogsauce]

They were talking about a lower speed, more like a conventional line (125-140mph), but that makes little difference in cost with a new build as you want to build it as straight as possible anyway to save on land take. Might as well build it as planned as the not insignificant design cost had already been spent.

 

[MickiQ]

As far as I understand from details elsewhere, the route & spec would be pretty much exactly what was planned for HS2.

HS2.1

 

[T & P]

They were talking about a lower speed, more like a conventional line (125-140mph), but that makes little difference in cost with a new build as you want to build it as straight as possible anyway to save on land take. Might as well build it as planned as the not insignificant design cost had already been spent.

But surely the trainsets will be much cheaper and more widely available to acquire than those capable of 225 mph...

 

[Crispy]

But surely the trainsets will be much cheaper and more widely available to acquire than those capable of 225 mph...

Only if they run Birmingham-Manchester. If they run on to London then they have to match speed or it'll screw up the timetable.

 

[prunus]

Only if they run Birmingham-Manchester. If they run on to London then they have to match speed or it'll screw up the timetable.

This will be solved by limiting the speed on the Birmingham-London leg to 125mph, mark my words.

 

[WouldBe]

This will be solved by limiting the speed on the Birmingham-London leg to 125mph, mark my words.

So LS2 then.

 

[T & P]

It’s certainly going to be a lamentable underutilisation of the trainsets. Even the real-world expected speed of 320 kph, it would save passengers what, 15-odd minutes on what would have already been a very fast journey if run with existing 145 mph stock? But I guess they’re now locked in a contract with Altsom. Though frankly they m’d be better off selling them a country with a real HS network.

 

[gosub]

Four Basingstoke roads part of £8.45m maintenance scheme using reallocated HS2 funds

NINETEEN projects to improve Hampshire’s roads including four in Basingstoke have been given the go-ahead using funding of £8.45m.

www.basingstokegazette.co.uk

 

[WouldBe]

I always thought it took me 3+ hours to get from Andover to chesterfield due to the distance. Now I know Hampshire is in the north it must have been down to potholes.

 

[blossie33]

Residents in the Old Oak Common area not happy about this

Old Oak Common: Anger as HS2 plans four-year main road closure

Residents say they are "shattered" their main road could be closed for HS2 station works.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[T & P]

Four years.
Four fucking years.

x 10, but also x 50

 

[hash tag]

HS2 has certainly turned into one huge shambles, made worse by cancelling it in many parts. All those poor home owners that have lost their homes, the farmers who have lost generations is farming. What will happen to those places.
We went up to Willesden Junction at the weekend to have a nosy. It is madness to halt it there. It a a massive site, or at least that's how it looks.
I didn't realise it was such an issue for Wales as are trains generally.

Call it the Great Welsh Train Robbery – a £4bn HS2 scandal happening in plain sight | Will Hayward

Thanks to a ministerial sleight of hand, the cost to Wales, already plagued by poor rail services, has been huge, says Guardian columnist Will Hayward

www.theguardian.com

 

[zahir]

Talk of reinstating HS2 as far as Crewe.

Government rumoured to reintroduce HS2 to Crewe - Place North West

The Labour government is expected to announce the reversing of former Prime Minister Rishi Sunak's decision to cut HS2's northern leg between Birmingham and Crewe, according to media reports.

www.placenorthwest.co.uk

 

[hash tag]

I have passed Alstom's a few times this week at it has looked rather sad and redundant. It would be great if this did go ahead

‘Best-in-class’ seats and no bog-standard loos: first look at HS2 train interiors

Carriages for controversial high-speed line focus on passenger comfort, innovations and headroom, mock-ups reveal

www.theguardian.com

 

[Elpenor]

Can anyone explain why a train that gets from London to Birmingham in 45 minutes gets a bog and a train that goes across London and takes over an hour doesn’t get one?

 

[hash tag]

Can anyone explain why a train that gets from London to Birmingham in 45 minutes gets a bog and a train that goes across London and takes over an hour doesn’t get one?

It hasn't happened yet.
I'm guessing the Lizzy line and the overground don't have them because they stop frequently, where hopefully you will find one whereas London to Brum is non stop or limited stops.

 

[Elpenor]

It hasn't happened yet.
I'm guessing the Lizzy line and the overground don't have them because they stop frequently, where hopefully you will find one whereas London to Brum is non stop or limited stops.

I didn’t think there were toilets at the stops on Crossrail or the tube

 

[hash tag]

I didn’t think there were toilets at the stops on Crossrail or the tube

There must be some somewhere; Clapham Junction, willesden junction, Stratford I am guessing. There must be more...Liverpool street for certain

 

[tim]

I didn’t think there were toilets at the stops on Crossrail or the tube

Here's a map of stations where you can spend a penny.

https://content.tfl.gov.uk/toilets-map.pdf

And here is a spreadsheet giving details of toilets and where needed their keypad codes for cafes, pubs, and restaurants in London.

 

[hash tag]

Here's a map of stations where you can spend a penny.

https://content.tfl.gov.uk/toilets-map.pdf

And here is a spreadsheet giving details of toilets and where needed their keypad codes for cafes, pubs, and restaurants in London.

Brilliant

 

[Elpenor]

Here's a map of stations where you can spend a penny.

https://content.tfl.gov.uk/toilets-map.pdf

And here is a spreadsheet giving details of toilets and where needed their keypad codes for cafes, pubs, and restaurants in London.

That’s useful but it would better still if there was no need for a map as there is a loo at every station.

 

[teuchter]

Can anyone explain why a train that gets from London to Birmingham in 45 minutes gets a bog and a train that goes across London and takes over an hour doesn’t get one?

Lots of those HS2 trains will go further than Birmingham.

 

[Elpenor]

Lots of those HS2 trains will go further than Birmingham.

Will they? I thought it was going to end at Birmingham as things stand, I’ve heard talk of ending at Crewe but nothing concrete

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

That’s useful but it would better still if there was no need for a map as there is a loo at every station.

Better still if there were bogs on the trains so that those who need to go frequent don't have to keep interrupting their journeys to do so.

 

[WouldBe]

Lots of those HS2 trains will go further than Birmingham.

Not unless the HS2 project is reinstated.

 

[belboid]

Not unless the HS2 project is reinstated.

The trains may well do so, they are designed to travel on the existing network as well.

 

[lazythursday]

The trains may well do so, they are designed to travel on the existing network as well.

Yes, at least some of the trains will go to Manchester regardless of the line being built from what I understand - putting additional pressure on an already at capacity infrastructure.

 

[WouldBe]

The trains may well do so, they are designed to travel on the existing network as well.

If they can get onto the existing network.