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when the zombie apocalypse kicks off, i do hope you're not on my team.
I find real violence disturbing and will go out of my way to avoid it. If that's cowardice, I'm proud to be a coward.
I find all this barely contained glee at the prospect of violence even more disturbing. I also find it rather dubious ie I am sceptical about people's stories about it. I doubt joustmaster would admit to a crime if he really did it.
 
Sorry to interrupt this debate with some of yer actual cycling but...

On the way back from Edinburgh. Bloody hilly, hot, cold, rainy and sunny. We got alternately soaked and sunburned. Slept 2 hours till midnight then rode thru the night to get to Barnard Castle. Approx 550 miles completed now. A few riders with 1,000 yard stares!
 
Here is an example..
Last year I was on a quiet road, and a car purposely pulled alongside me and turned in to me. It was at a fairly slow speed, so I was only knocked half off my bike. The guy was going crackers at me, in his car. If I had set off, he would have chased me or passed me dangerously. If I had done nothing, he would have got out. Instead I walked round to his side and gave his door a shoeing, and threatened to damage his jaw bone. He seemed to realise that there was a real world outside his car, and quickly drove off.

How did you know he wouldn't get out and beat the shit out of you after you kicked his car? Equally, how did you know he'd get out of the car if you did nothing?
 
How did you know he wouldn't get out and beat the shit out of you after you kicked his car? Equally, how did you know he'd get out of the car if you did nothing?
You can't easily get out out of a car if someone is stood by the door. And its clear if someone has lost the plot enough to be getting out, especially as he'd just driven me off the road.
 
Sorry to interrupt this debate with some of yer actual cycling but...

On the way back from Edinburgh. Bloody hilly, hot, cold, rainy and sunny. We got alternately soaked and sunburned. Slept 2 hours till midnight then rode thru the night to get to Barnard Castle. Approx 550 miles completed now. A few riders with 1,000 yard stares!

I cycled from London to Brighton on Sunday. I can still feel it in my legs a bit now. I can't even begin to think how you are feeling.. Congratulations on the massive effort.
 
Just to be clear, I'm not riding round looking to fight drivers who cross my path. Just that those on those occasions, less than once a year, when someone goes actually maliciously attacks me, I will go for them.

Which is interesting, as a pedestrian, its probably been about 8 years since I had to fight someone.
 
Sure, it's ok to fight in defence, but it is very rarely necessary.
Where do you live where there are that many nutters that they attack you once a year or so?
And how many times have you had to defend yourself?
Maybe your size invites trouble as I've yet to have to defend myself against some nutter attacking me. <touch wood>
 
Just to be clear, I'm not riding round looking to fight drivers who cross my path. Just that those on those occasions, less than once a year, when someone goes actually maliciously attacks me, I will go for them.

Which is interesting, as a pedestrian, its probably been about 8 years since I had to fight someone.

What a load of old shit. If you really feel you must fight other road users that often there's something serious wrong.
 
no one feels they 'must fight other road users' - get a fucking grip will you? self defense is an entirely justified recourse, and short of being at the scene described, you really have no business pontificating about how people should react in specific circumstances.
 
Also jousty is fucking enormous which probably helped the driver think twice.
I think that's how I get away with it - though yesterday's rat-running van driver who I forced to stop called me "fat" - which I am - though it doesn't show - and it's the third time a dodgy van driver has called me that over the past year.. an odd sort of thing to shout at a cyclist of all people.
Thankfully I've never found myself involved in actual violence.
 
an eye for an eye, makes everyone blind........
For some reason there is a great animosity to cyclists in this country, kicking off at motorists is just gonna reinforce those attitudes. Unfortunately you get dickheads in all forms of transportation and cyclists can be just as bad as motorists.
 
Sure, it's ok to fight in defence, but it is very rarely necessary.
Where do you live where there are that many nutters that they attack you once a year or so?
And how many times have you had to defend yourself?
Maybe your size invites trouble as I've yet to have to defend myself against some nutter attacking me. <touch wood>

Like you say, you are happy to let a driver attack you, then wait and hope they leave. Were as I will lash out back at them, in a hope of stopping them or driving them off. To make them leave or to make them get out of the one ton weapon, is my aim.
Its a rare thing. Just a 2 or 3 times since I started cycling down here 5 or 6 years ago.
 
I can only reference my own experience, which is a van driver trying to run me off the road, which I had no defence from. I had no weapon to hand and I'm glad I didn't as someone would have got hurt, probably me.
I am not 'happy' letting anyone attack me!
As I said earlier in the thread, I was lucky enough to see sense, back down and let it go.
 
an eye for an eye, makes everyone blind........
For some reason there is a great animosity to cyclists in this country, kicking off at motorists is just gonna reinforce those attitudes. Unfortunately you get dickheads in all forms of transportation and cyclists can be just as bad as motorists.


bullshit. let me know when you successfully manage to use your bike as a weapon to bully and intimidate a car-bound road user and i'll eat my hat.
 
I doubt we'll ever "teach" the bullies to respect us, but I always feel that it's good for cyclists to be seen by others to be standing up for themselves.
I got a broad smile from a bus passenger the other day when I was telling off the bus lane parkers.
I think there's more hope with the casually bad drivers - most of whom can be kept in check with an assertive road position and very clear indication of intent.
My suggestions for keeping things the right side of assault and criminal damage are as usual a camera and a loud horn.
(I had to give up on the dual air horns though - really unpleasantly loud - possibly harmful to my hearing - let alone theirs.)
Has anyone on here encountered the Traffic Droid in the flesh ?
 
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