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It would be really good if cyclists going round huge roundabouts would indicate so I know where they are going. Would hate to kill one.
 
Indicating that they intend to leave at the next exit ?
I go on rides with otherwise very experienced cyclists who aren't confident enough to take the lane and give limp little hand signals...
And then you have the idiots .... some of them believe they're invincible if they're invisible ... sorry to say, but I can easily recognise cyclists who haven't driven - not a clue about seeing and being seen ...
 
Meanwhile, arsehole du soir - charged at me at 15 to 20 mph and assumed I would just smear myself into the doorzone - at high speed.

 
car driver tonight at a junction not indicating so was to the right of him, at the stop i pointed both ways and asked him which way he was going as no indication from positioning or direction of wheels. he wound window down and asked me what i was on about so i said 'left, right? which way are you going?,no indicating' his reply was 'indicate to who?' err 'them behind, me' he comes back with 'what difference does it make' strangely pointing at the main road in front of us, 'err if you go right you'll crush me', he didn't seem to care and wasn't annoyed so just went round him with a parting 'have some consideration for others!'
no shouting involved tho from either side :hmm:
 
They haven't got a clue.
There's a right angle bend I encounter every evening - clear as day that it's a bend, but car after car indicates ..
The sooner they let computers take over the driving, the better...
 
gentlegreen said:
Indicating that they intend to leave at the next exit ?
I go on rides with otherwise very experienced cyclists who aren't confident enough to take the lane and give limp little hand signals...
And then you have the idiots .... some of them believe they're invincible if they're invisible ... sorry to say, but I can easily recognise cyclists who haven't driven - not a clue about seeing and being seen ...
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Changing lanes suddenly across St Pauls roundabout so I thought he was going to exit down to slip road to town but instead switched lanes to exit at St Pauls....cutting me up:facepalm:
 
kalidarkone said:
It would be really good if cyclists going round huge roundabouts would indicate so I know where they are going. Would hate to kill one.
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I go round a few roundabouts on my daily commute. On them I'm either accelerating, braking or turning. And I damn well want both hands on the handlebars/brakes at the time.

If only I had a third arm to indicate with...
 
a_chap said:
I go round a few roundabouts on my daily commute. On them I'm either accelerating, braking or turning. And I damn well want both hands on the handlebars/brakes at the time.

If only I had a third arm to indicate with...
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Well how I am I supposed to know where you are going....I mean I was being really careful...and the stupid fucker changed lanes right in front of me really close. He had no excuse as there is an underpass under the roundabout. I get pissed off with drivers that do not indicate as well. Just stupid road users really ...regardless of what they are 'on' cept obviously cyclists are really vulnerable ...
 
There is of course the fact that the highway code specifically states that cyclists can't always be expected to give hand signals and you should keep well back until they've finished what they need to do.
There are of course idiots, but a good driver will realise they're idiots and keep their distance.
It's the same on a bike - not just with other cyclists, but people who don't realise that cycling speed is about 10MPH and that they cannot charge at us in confined spaces as if we don't exist.
 
There's a roundabout near Boots/Asda in Clapham junction at the top of a hill. Pretty tricky to indicate when pedalling like buggery to stop rolling backwards. Always position myself right in the middle of the lanes, there can be no confusion as to where I am going...but still get cars from left cutting right across me.
 
I nearly got knocked over by a cyclist as I came out of the underground station last night. The same cyclist the almost knocked over someone else as he went round a corner and suddenly stopped. As I walked past him I asked him to watch where he was going as he had nearly knocked over two people by cycling on the pavement and he just said very huffily 'I didn't knock anybody over'. Which wasn't what I'd said at all, and I said so. He just shrugged. :mad:

I'm fed up of dodging cyclists when I on the pavement. Most cyclists don't cycle on the pavements, it's just a few that are a nightmare.
 
I also have a problem on one roundabout, next to the Woolwich ferry. I need to go straight across it (2nd exit), so I get in the middle of the two lanes, so no one thinks I am turning at the first exit and cuts across me (that happened the first time I attempted to cross it). But still the odd car seems to think I am turning and cut across me anyway. Luckily they are going slow enough to avoid me, but it's scary. Am I supposed to indicate right on a roundabout? I am also loathe to take one hand on my bike on a right curve whilst negotiating busy traffic.
Sorry, Kali, but it sounds like you were going too fast not to consider that the cyclist in front of you might be about to get off the roundabout. Though I am having trouble imagining the situation admittedly. Was he deep in the inner lane? As I said, I sort of keep in between the lanes, so they don't know what I'm going to and therefore hold back a bit.
 
Found some old woollen thinsulate gloves in a draw so am using them. They are doing ok keeping the wind off.
 
ddraig said:
car driver tonight at a junction not indicating so was to the right of him, at the stop i pointed both ways and asked him which way he was going as no indication from positioning or direction of wheels. he wound window down and asked me what i was on about so i said 'left, right? which way are you going?,no indicating' his reply was 'indicate to who?' err 'them behind, me' he comes back with 'what difference does it make' strangely pointing at the main road in front of us, 'err if you go right you'll crush me', he didn't seem to care and wasn't annoyed so just went round him with a parting 'have some consideration for others!'
no shouting involved tho from either side :hmm:
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I have a silent version of a similar stand off most nights on my way home. The crossroads is small and not used much and so I think drivers who do use it think it's not worth indicating or something. If I'm not indicating right but am in the middle of the road, I must be going straight on, so I tend to cycle straight at them from opposite and I can tell they aren't sure where I am going either, then as I get close to the junction they feel forced to indicate.
 
I was doing quite well with the cycling for a while. Stupidly injured myself a bit (lot) so been off the bike nearly a month. Needs a service really as I am not feeling over confident getting back on it generally and it was a little wobbly anyway.

Need to get a helmet and some gloves too.
 
Orang Utan said:
I also have a problem on one roundabout, next to the Woolwich ferry. I need to go straight across it (2nd exit), so I get in the middle of the two lanes, so no one thinks I am turning at the first exit and cuts across me (that happened the first time I attempted to cross it). But still the odd car seems to think I am turning and cut across me anyway. Luckily they are going slow enough to avoid me, but it's scary. Am I supposed to indicate right on a roundabout? I am also loathe to take one hand on my bike on a right curve whilst negotiating busy traffic.
Sorry, Kali, but it sounds like you were going too fast not to consider that the cyclist in front of you might be about to get off the roundabout. Though I am having trouble imagining the situation admittedly. Was he deep in the inner lane? As I said, I sort of keep in between the lanes, so they don't know what I'm going to and therefore hold back a bit.
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I think it's a good idea to indicate right if you think someone behind may have any doubt that you are not turning off. If you are not comfortable with taking your hands of the handlebars very obviously look over your right shoulder and make eye contact if you can - as well as looking for cars this move gives useful signals.
 
kalidarkone said:
It would be really good if cyclists going round huge roundabouts would indicate so I know where they are going. Would hate to kill one.
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That's a good first step - you have anticipated a hazard. Your response should be to drive defensively.

As a cyclist it's hard to get up to speed with one hand on the handlebar.
 
Unfortunately, looking behind often gives following drivers an "excuse" to dangerously overtake.

Here's an experienced London rider with a head-mounted lamp that should be at least as good as a hand signal, but look what the WVM does :-

 
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