trashpony
Hag
It really is. I thought the bear (Yorick?) was too small but then when he was face to face with Lyra, he was just the right size for a polar bear. And I like the way he's a bit battered and grubby looking.
I'm enjoying this immensely
His Dark Materials - TV Series
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I'm enjoying this immensely
Biddlybee
making knots with sticks
Oh
I thought you meant present as in they weren't as interactive/connected with their person as much as in the books.I'm undecided on this Lee, I'm not sure he's Texan enough
Voley
🐀
The Night's Watch guy. Big beardy bloke. Who's the other refugee from GoT?
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Poor excuse for not doing the job properly.
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
Gyptian King John Faa played by Lucian Msamati aka Salladhor Saan
Voley
🐀
Ah right. I didn't recognise him, I've gotta be honest.
kittyP
Pluviophile
Well I don't think they are as interactive either because you don't see them all that much.Oh
I'm undecided on this Lee, I'm not sure he's Texan enough
Even Pan.
Biddlybee
making knots with sticks
Pan is often in her pocket, but yeh not nearly enough demons
Manter
Lunch Mob
I loved it. Back story and atmosphere and stuff. And connections between people so you care more when horrible stuff happens to them later3/4 of tonight’s episode felt slow and boring, though things certainly spiced up. Next week should be a cracker
BristolEcho
Well-Known Member
3/4 of tonight’s episode felt slow and boring, though things certainly spiced up. Next week should be a cracker
Didn't the first 3/4's confirm they are slicing Deamons? Which is pretty massive, but has perhaps been lost on the TV production?
T & P
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For me it was that I felt the scenes set in ‘our’ world were a bit long and slow and took a tad too much of a proportion of the episode- I want to be in Lyra’s world as much as possible, and we could have been introduced to the new characters and their backgrounds in a swifter way.
And secondly the oh-so-much-grief-all-round scenes dealing with the death and funeral of the child also felt stretched and a bit Game of Thrones-ish.
Don’t get me wrong, the episode was still pretty decent imo but I guess I’ve enjoyed the others so much I’ve become too accustomed to 8 or 9 out of 10 episodes, and this one was a more sedated affair. Though the last 15 minutes were ace.
Rebelda
Nearly as bad as Badgers
I didn't like it as much as previous episodes but that might be because it *gasp* deviated from the book and I'm a massive wanker 
I've come round to what I was thinking of, in my default puritan way, as book 2 spoilers actually, the bits we're being shown of our world now do run chronologically with Lyra's journey, it's just that we get a back track in the subtle knife. I approve 
I've come round to what I was thinking of, in my default puritan way, as book 2 spoilers
actually, the bits we're being shown of our world now do run chronologically with Lyra's journey, it's just that we get a back track in the subtle knife. I approve SheilaNaGig
Break requested
I think someone on the boat that takes Lyra north had a dolphin as a daemon. They could never leave the sea. But it seemed to me that their interactions would be sadly minimal.
Rebelda
Nearly as bad as Badgers
Yeah. I do like the idea that when they settle you get an idea of who you are. There's some great stuff expanding this topic in the two new books
SheilaNaGig
Break requested
Yeah. I do like the idea that when they settle you get an idea of who you are. There's some great stuff expanding this topic in the two new books
It would be very exposing, wouldn’t it: to have a daemon, so something fundamental about your most inner self is on the outside, walking around in the world.
Mrs Coulter’s daemon seems so cowed and scared (as well as enslaved to her cruelty), it suggests that some part of her is essentially that way, and her nasty abusive behaviour is compensatory.
ETA
I’ve not read the recent books. Waiting to find them in a second hand shop (because money).
BristolEcho
Well-Known Member
I have the "Book of dust" which you can have if you want?
kittyP
Pluviophile
If you are in London you can borrow mine.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
If you live in London a rat would be an ideal daemon. Never more than 6 feet away.
SheilaNaGig
Break requested
Yes. I do wonder what gigs and festivals would be like with Dæmons. What would it be like on the tubes and buses?
ETA
Ooh! Look what autocorrect did with “daemon”!
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
Am I right in remembering that Pullman is on record saying that Sam Elliot’s portrayal of Scoresby was absolutely spot-on for how imagined the character?
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
I prefer Miranda's version. Never seen him in anything else either so I don't get the oh look that's him out of that other thing effect that you often get with these high-end UK productions. It is oddly satisfying to see Steve and Fiona out of Shameless (sort of) reunited though.
BristolEcho
Well-Known Member
He was pretty great in that I thought. I think the current person is doing a good job too though.
Biddlybee
making knots with sticks
I can't find the thread about the new trilogy, so it's going here... it's only just dawned on me that there aren't any other animals in Lyra's world, no pets, no birds, no livestock 
are there? Maybe I completely missed them being mentioned. Trying to think if they mention eating meat even?
Desperate to read the latest book now, just trying to find a copy
are there? Maybe I completely missed them being mentioned. Trying to think if they mention eating meat even?Desperate to read the latest book now, just trying to find a copy
Lazy Llama
Suburban robots that monitor reality
Philip Pullman - new trilogy
I think there are, they just don’t crop up much. In La Belle Sauvage there are cows, if I remember correctly. And I think the meat in food would indicate that over livestock exists.
Biddlybee
making knots with sticks
ah, thanks for the link LL.
I've just finished that and I don't think there were cows, definitely meat stew though.
Cloo
Banana for scale
I was, like some people I saw on social media, a bit disappointed with the discovery of the victim of 'intercision'. It's such a powerful and horrifying moment in the book - and the lead-up in the series was good, catching the sense of wrongness and fear, but just finding him basically unconscious is much less of a smack in the face then it is in the book with him clutching the dried fish in place of his daemon and still talking despite effectively no longer being a complete conscious being by their world's rules.
I wonder if they didn't feel that could bring in quite that much existential horror pre-watershed! Or maybe they felt they weren't even going to try to match it for impact.
Also, they've made it Billy Costa rather than a kid who's not known to her and some people felt that made it more about the sadness of something done to a friend than the horror that this has been done at all, as some people pointed out. So a bit of a lost opportunity.
I wonder if they didn't feel that could bring in quite that much existential horror pre-watershed! Or maybe they felt they weren't even going to try to match it for impact.
Also, they've made it Billy Costa rather than a kid who's not known to her and some people felt that made it more about the sadness of something done to a friend than the horror that this has been done at all, as some people pointed out. So a bit of a lost opportunity.
Lazy Llama
Suburban robots that monitor reality
Yeah, not sure why I got cows in my head, possibly recent footage of floods, it’s been a while.
