Harry Roberts has been freed

[Lurdan]

Not so,most people in the east end of the time knew Davis was a career crim.The problem was the filth were going around fitting up people for crimes they had nothing to do with.

Exactly so. He was fitted up in what was a fairly standard procedure for the Met in those days. That original 1975 conviction was sufficiently unsafe that he was released under 'Royal Prerogative' after a couple of years during which time the campaign over him was very active and quite creative. (Using Royal Prerogative to release him meant the conviction itself still stood - it was only finally quashed in 2011). The Davis campaign was led by his family and a friend Peter Chappell who was a decent bloke. Aside from the graffiti which was all over the East End, and digging up the cricket pitch at Headingley, the night before the last day of a Test Match against Australia which England had a chance of winning (that got the Establishment's attention ), on one occasion Chappell drove his cab into the front windows of a number of Fleet Street newspaper offices.

It all went went to Davis' head however, after he was released he treated his family and those who had campaigned for him pretty shabbily, and he was convicted of another bank robbery in 1977.

There was a witty piece of graffiti in Stepney after the second conviction which read 'George Davis is in a cell'.

 

[treelover]

Harry Roberts is our friend
is our friend
is our friend
Harry Roberts is our friend
he kills coppers.

tell it to the widows...

 

[Pickman's model]

Oh, that's ok than.

Nothing offensive ever happens in the terraces.

I didn't say it was against the rules, no more than the aforementioned criticism.

perhaps you could apologise to me for calling me a wanker without my giving any provocation.

 

[Andrew Hertford]

I remember this from when I was a kid, it was truly shocking and he had zero sympathy at the time. I can remember his distraught mum on the radio begging him to give himself up.

I can't see the point of releasing him now, not whilst his victim's families are still around. He'd be better off inside.

 

[Pickman's model]

I can't see the point of releasing him now, not whilst his victim's families are still around.

fuck me but you're a wanker. so it doesn't matter the sentence someone receives nor that the parole board have determined he's fit to be released. i hope something happens where you get sentenced to a long auld drag and then some tosser comes along and uses your argument for your continued incarceration.

incidentally, he was sentenced not as per your post for one, but for three murders.

 

[Citizen66]

tell it to the widows...

Why, what have they done wrong (besides marrying piggies)?

 

[Andrew Hertford]

fuck me but you're a wanker. so it doesn't matter the sentence someone receives nor that the parole board have determined he's fit to be released. i hope something happens where you get sentenced to a long auld drag and then some tosser comes along and uses your argument for your continued incarceration.

incidentally, he was sentenced not as per your post for one, but for three murders.

I've managed to wind up Herr Flick - there's a bonus!

I know he was sentenced for three murders you twat, that's why I referred to his victim's families.

 

[Citizen66]

You need to move that apostrophe then a little to the right.

 

[Pickman's model]

I've managed to wind up Herr Flick - there's a bonus!

I know he was sentenced for three murders you twat, that's why I referred to his victim's families.

you illiterate shit

 

[comrade spurski]

...sure that wasn't George Davis...?

Are you sure you're not confusing him with George Davis ? Remnants of the graffiti campaign about Davis survived into the 80s, maybe longer.

you are both right it was george davis...middle age memory loss on my part

 

[Onket]

perhaps you could apologise to me for calling me a wanker

I don't think anyone needs to apologise for that!

 

[Pickman's model]

I don't think anyone needs to apologise for that!

we're not talking about just anyone, we're talking about Awesome Wells.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Are you sure you're not confusing him with George Davis ? Remnants of the graffiti campaign about Davis survived into the 80s, maybe longer.

Right up until Georgey-boy got nicked for armed robbery after his release, in fact!

 

[Bakunin]

I must admit, I don't see Roberts as a threat these days, whatever he was when he went away in 1966.Had he been convicted two years earlier he'd undoubtedly have hanged for his crime, but he's served decades (as he should have done, considering his crime). The bigger question is whether he'll be able to adjust to life on the outside, parole may well prove a poisoned chalice for him all things considered.

 

[treelover]

What about Butcher's post?, it was mentioned on Today this morning about his attacks on animals.

 

[Citizen66]

Umm, how could he have attacked animals when he was in prison? Someone could have done so on his behalf, including those not wanting him to be released.

 

[maomao]

Fantastic.

Post this and twats press the LIKE button.

Point out the errors in a feminist critique of a video game and get banned.

You weren't banned, you were prevented from posting on one thread which you were in the process of ruining through a series of posts gradually increasing in length and hysteria haranguing half the posters on the thread while repeatedly announcing you had the other half on ignore. You were, and still are, completely at freedom to start a thread discussing the topic you were failing so woefully to 'discuss'.

You weren't 'pointing out errors in a feminist critique' you were linking to increasingly dodgy (as in death threats dodgy) sources in an attempt to prove that said feminist was 'lying' about whether she liked video games despite it having been pointed out several dozen times that no-one else gave a fuck whether she was lying or not because it had no bearing on the topic of the thread nor the validity of her critique.

And that was aside from putting up a video of abusive trots in the USA and trying to equate all feminism everywhere to the behaviour on that video.

 

[Pickman's model]

You weren't banned, you were prevented from posting on one thread which you were in the process of ruining through a series of posts gradually increasing in length and hysteria haranguing half the posters on the thread while repeatedly announcing you had the other half on ignore. You were, and still are, completely at freedom to start a thread discussing the topic you were failing so woefully to 'discuss'.

You weren't 'pointing out errors in a feminist critique' you were linking to increasingly dodgy (as in death threats dodgy) sources in an attempt to prove that said feminist was 'lying' about whether she liked video games despite it having been pointed out several dozen times that no-one else gave a fuck whether she was lying or not because it had no bearing on the topic of the thread nor the validity of her critique.

And that was aside from putting up a video of abusive trots in the USA and trying to equate all feminism everywhere to the behaviour on that video.

careful there or he'll wish the cancer on you.

 

[butchersapron]

Umm, how could he have attacked animals when he was in prison? Someone could have done so on his behalf, including those not wanting him to be released.

The suggestion is he arranged for the following to happen:

A horse was slashed, another blinded with an iron bar, a cat was electrocuted, a peacock was strangled and a donkey was beaten so savagely it had to be put down.

to punish the people at an animal sanctuary he was at day release from for telling the authorities he was threatening them on a daily basis - which got his day release pulled. And after this he rang the woman who ran the sanctuary daily for 4 years threatening her.

 

[maomao]

careful there or he'll wish the cancer on you.

He's too busy wishing it on people exercising loudly fifty yards from his back window. Don't think there's any left for me.

 

[Bakunin]

Umm, how could he have attacked animals when he was in prison? Someone could have done so on his behalf, including those not wanting him to be released.

True. His release won't be greeted with enthusiasm by everybody, understandably so. And it's a very moot point as to whether he'll even cope on the outside.

 

[co-op]

The suggestion is he arranged for the following to happen:



to punish the people at an animal sanctuary he was at day release from for telling the authorities he was threatening them on a daily basis - which got his day release pulled.

Parole Board must have known about this? How long ago was it?

 

[Citizen66]

The suggestion is he arranged for the following to happen:



to punish the people at an animal sanctuary he was at day release from for telling the authorities he was threatening them on a daily basis - which got his day release pulled.

It's appalling. Someone should have let the people at the sanctuary know how the criminal fraternity deal with suspected grasses and either discouraged them from being put in that position or given them protection. Seems neither happened in this case.

 

[Onket]

The suggestion is he arranged for the following to happen:



to punish the people at an animal sanctuary he was at day release from for telling the authorities he was threatening them on a daily basis - which got his day release pulled. And after this he rang the woman who ran the sanctuary daily for 4 years threatening her.

Where are your quotes from?

 

[butchersapron]

Parole Board must have known about this? How long ago was it?

This was in 2006 and the evidence was given to the parole board in secret but Roberts guessed the animal sanctuary people had gave it. Hence his campaign against them. Including an attempt to behead a horse on the sanctuary with an ax it appears.

 

[Pickman's model]

Parole Board must have known about this?

it was kept quiet and only reported in the newspapers.

 

[Lurdan]

The Harry Roberts song used to be sung occasionally on political demonstrations in the 1970s (I can recall joining in). As on the football terraces, it wasn't about supporting Roberts, who was indeed a thoroughly unpleasant cunt, it was about deliberately winding up the police.

However a certain amount of myth-making about it's use on demonstrations developed in the 1980s, and this led directly to Jake Arnott's book monetizing a version of Roberts story (and depicting an absurd myth of political support for it's leading character), and then to an execrable ITV drama that was based on it.

Arnott gave an interview at the time of the latter in which he said :

‘The world I lived through in the ’70s and ’80s was one where [anarchist magazine] Class War would literally run a Hospitalised Copper Of The Month picture,’ says Arnott. ‘I was a bit guilty of it myself but I soon got very bored of it. Now we’re very lucky to live in a society that can comfortably question the police.’

Indeed how lucky we are. Lucky, lucky, lucky.

 

[co-op]

This was in 2006 and the evidence was given to the parole board in secret but Roberts guessed the animal sanctuary people had gave it. Hence his campaign against them. Including at attempt to behead a horse on the sanctuary with an ax it appears.

Just wondering why they decided to let him out after that, it's hardly a sign that he's a reformed character (or at least no longer a threat).

 

[Pickman's model]

monetizing

 

[co-op]

The Harry Roberts song used to be sung occasionally on political demonstrations in the 1970s (I can recall joining in). As on the football terraces, it wasn't about supporting Roberts, who was indeed a thoroughly unpleasant cunt, it was about deliberately winding up the police.

I never heard it on political demos; at football it used to have a really specific point, it was sung after the police had started beating people up or at least flipped into aggressively throwing their weight around, so it was "retaliation". It was never a terrace staple.