Harry Roberts has been freed
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ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Nothing like. Moat was a cry-baby self-pitying murderous drug-crazed fantasist. Harry Roberts was a career villain who was armed, and used his weapon to try to save his own skin.
maomao
普費斯
He also first killed for the British army in Malaysia didn't he? A lot of people came back from that war very very fucked up.
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
"that bit of the war"? the malayan emergency was a conflict in its own right rather than part of another war.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Some wag amednded the "George Davis Is Innocent" graffiti on Plough Lane railway bridge (leading into Clapham Junction) to read "...was innocent", which tickled me for the several years before it faded away.
maomao
普費斯
My mistake. I thought it was a direct part of WW2 but didn't really get going till 3 years later.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Yeah he was a commie-killer too. Probably involved in torture of mau mau as well. He was involved in this stuff late 56 onwards.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
harry roberts was born in 1936 so unlikely to have fought in the second world war.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Whereas plods who murder humans get...how long is it again? Two weeks suspended on full pay while the bigjobs bury the evidence
Quite. The cunts who beat Liddle Towers to death, the bastards who smashed Blair Peach's head in, the wankers who smothered Christopher Alder...fuck, we could spend a day just listing violent murders by the old bill and were never made to pay for their crime.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
the cops who murdered diarmuid o'neill, joy gardner, harry stanley, mark saunders, mark duggan...
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I think we can be fairly certain that they're more concerned about the "insult" to their institution, than to the possible slaying of animals by "friends" of Harry Roberts.
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
He was a sniper, if I remember rightly.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Crybaby.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
He was very nearly done for another murder after the beat an OAP to death whilst was robbing him. The victim died a year and three days later - which was over the time that allowed a murder charge by two days.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Killing and torturing communist POWs seems to have been his main role.
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
Dirty work and sniping, not the skills that make anybody fit easily back into civilian society.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
He was already beating innocent people half to death with iron bars before he did his service.
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
Odd how people lionised him, considering his record as a serial violent offender.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Not really, just goes to show how loved the Met has always been.
maomao
普費斯
I've never heard anyone lionise him (equally not denying anyone ever has), just use his name to taunt police at demos.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Yep. Yet another issue Countryman didn't solve - that way too many coppers were out of control, and framing any villain who they didn't like (for which read "who didn't pay tribute to Rome") to get them out of the way.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
AFAIK a crowd gathered outside the police station he was being held at when first nicked and started the chant.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I think he was an NCO in the Army, and I read somewhere that he was fortunate not to have been hanged in the late fifties for another death at his hands.
Thoroughly nasty piece of work, McVicar and Reggie Kray say Roberts was proud of all his killings and never showed any remorse.
I vaguely remember the shootings and the hunt for him, I was about nine years old but I well remember his capture, because I had to ask my dad what he meant saying when he heard that Roberts had been caught.
''I bet he falls down the steps at the station a few dozen times tonight''.
Thoroughly nasty piece of work, McVicar and Reggie Kray say Roberts was proud of all his killings and never showed any remorse.
I vaguely remember the shootings and the hunt for him, I was about nine years old but I well remember his capture, because I had to ask my dad what he meant saying when he heard that Roberts had been caught.
''I bet he falls down the steps at the station a few dozen times tonight''.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Kind of depends whether or not he allows himself to be fawned over by the Dave Courtneys of the "criminal underworld" really, I suppose.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Well he did kill 3 times more people than your common-or-garden murderer. In any case the ridiculously short sentences for murder shouldn't be used as any sort of guideline.
Roberts should have been hanged. Three times.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
His threats are pretty damning. Those wanting to scupper his release are unlikely to have known about them.
Not sure why you're defending this piece of dog shit.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
He was an infantry sharpshooter, so he'd have been used in the forefront of the fighting. Malaysia was the first situation where there was widespread military exposure to "guerrilla warfare" usage against them. Prior to that, it had been mostly a tactic we used against others (cf Kitson and his fellow travellers).
Malaysia was also probably the first conflict where the post-war British army openly terrorised in the name of fighting insurgency. We pulled some horrible shit in Kenya, but Malaysia was a whole different realm of horror, IMO. The Yanks got some of their ideas about how to operate in Vietnam from us in Malaysia, and the French in "French Indo-China".
None of that is to claim that serving turned Roberts into a remorseless psychopath, but his training and subsequent operational experience would have made him assess killing very much from a cost/benefit point of view.
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Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
Steady on. He was a convict, not a yo-yo.
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