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Pickman's model said:
you'd think that after 27 years she'd give someone else a chance anyway

and i notice schools in hackney still not good enough for her to send her son to one.
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She has a super safe seat, her share went up in 2010 when the labour share elsewhere was plummeting. When she does go there will be an almighty struggle for the nomination.
 
marty21 said:
She has a super safe seat, her share went up in 2010 when the labour share elsewhere was plummeting. When she does go there will be an almighty struggle for the nomination.
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no there won't. some blairite shit will get parachuted in as happened in hackney south and shoreditch.
 
Cat and Mutton's reopened. Just went past and there's a load of people sitting outside drinking. In the rain.
 
'Hackney has refused to reconsider demolition of its Georgian houses in Dalston Terrace
Hackney has refused to review its decision to allow demolition of all its Georgian houses in Dalston Terrace. Hackney was forced to suspend unlawful demolitions last January and OPEN is again now seeking specialist legal advice about this latest development. Hackney has commented to OPEN's solicitor that demolition will not start before 15 April.'

http://opendalston.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/hackney-has-refused-to-reconsider.html?m=1
 
Sue said:
Cat and Mutton's reopened. Just went past and there's a load of people sitting outside drinking. In the rain.
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Complete with an ironic full height oil painting of Karl Marx, which brought a smile to my face... well more of a grimace. It is like living in an episode of a Chris Morris programme around here. You can laugh at the rise of the idiots in the moment, but then you have to live with the reality of it all.
 
eoin_k said:
Complete with an ironic full height oil painting of Karl Marx, which brought a smile to my face... well more of a grimace. It is like living in an episode of a Chris Morris programme around here. You can laugh at the rise of the idiots in the moment, but then you have to live with the reality of it all.
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there's some hipster bar on kingsland road with a big portait of che guevara on the wall
 
eoin_k said:
Complete with an ironic full height oil painting of Karl Marx, which brought a smile to my face... well more of a grimace. It is like living in an episode of a Chris Morris programme around here. You can laugh at the rise of the idiots in the moment, but then you have to live with the reality of it all.
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sounds just as bad as the old cat and mutton - much prefer the Dove if I drink around there
 
Samuel House, the last remaining block, albeit empty now will be demolished tomorrow at 11am. For some of us it will be an big day, but our experiences of struggling through regeneration/gentrification and community organising are not unique.

Little reminder:


http://www.iamhere.org.uk/
 
Rutita1 said:
Samuel House, the last remaining block, albeit empty now will be demolished tomorrow at 11am. For some of us it will be an big day, but our experiences of struggling through regeneration/gentrification and community organising are not unique.

Little reminder:


http://www.iamhere.org.uk/
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Years ago I did go to that estate a few times - a mate lived there - he originally moved in to a 3 bed with 2 other people, who then left - leaving him alone in a 3 bed - although he subsequently had people living with him until he moved away about 15 years ago
 
Rutita1 said:
Samuel House, the last remaining block, albeit empty now will be demolished tomorrow at 11am. For some of us it will be an big day, but our experiences of struggling through regeneration/gentrification and community organising are not unique.

Little reminder:


http://www.iamhere.org.uk/
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I tend to give you a smile and a wink as I cycle past your portrait of a morning :). Will miss them faces :(. Used to like the swimming pool down that way too (mind you it was usually empty whenever I went - hence why I liked it, lol).
 
marty21 said:
not a regular there, what happened?
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So, the Sunday of a Bank Holiday weekend about three years ago. I've been to see a film in the afternoon with a friend P and it's a bit too early to go for pizza so we decide to go to the Dove for a drink first. P is Singaporean.

It's really busy in the pub. P goes off to look for seats, I go to the bar. I'm just about to get served and P comes over to say she's found some seats and points in the general direction. I say fine, just getting served, be over in a minute.

Guy comes over. Turns out it's the landlord, something I wasn't aware of initially.

Him (aggressively and without preamble): What did she just say to you?

Me: Eh, what?

Him (still aggressively): That woman, what did that woman just say to you?

Me (confused): Erm, she said she's found some seats.

HIm (suspiciously): Oh, do you know her?

Me: Erm yes, that's the friend I'm in with. Why?

Him: Oh, I thought she was hassling you.

Me: Oh?

HIm: Yes, they're always in here, hassling people to buy DVDs.

Me: Who?

Him: You know, them.

Me: No, not really.

He goes off to collect some glasses. My drinks arrive so I go to find P, very bemused about the conversation.

15 minutes or so later, P's gone off to the loo, landlord's over clearing glasses near our table.

Me: Eh, you know what you were saying at the bar before?

Him:Yes?

Me: I was just wondering if you'd have said that if my friend was white?

HIm (aggressively): What? Are you calling me a racist?

Me: I''m just asking a question.

Him: (even more aggressively): My sister in law's Thai. Are you calling me a racist?

Me: I'm just asking a question.

He storms off. P has meanwhile come back from the toilet and has caught the end of this. We're both pissed off and leave and haven't been back in since.
 
alsoknownas said:
I tend to give you a smile and a wink as I cycle past your portrait of a morning :). Will miss them faces :(. Used to like the swimming pool down that way too (mind you it was usually empty whenever I went - hence why I liked it, lol).
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SORRY all...my misunderstanding...ONLY the portraits were taken down today because the demolition company have to finish the soft strip of the building (windows) before the BIG boy munching machine comes and devours it.

So...My neighbours and I were there:

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...and now we are not...

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Munching pics as it happens :thumbs:

I loved that pool too...I used to slip a dress on over my cossy and go there to swim in the afternoons because the light was amazing through the glass roof. Get out of the pool, slip dress back on, walk 3 minutes home and shower...:(
 
Sue said:
I've recounted what happened, not sure what you mean by projection.
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let's take the bull by the horns then. this bloke runs a pub in an inner city postcode. one of the things you can guarantee if you do this where he works is that thai people come in trying to sell porno dvds to customers. they bother a lot of the customers, who complain to him. in an effort to keep order, he attempts to keep a lid on it. hence he asked you and your friend what was happening. you took it to be aggressive clearly, but is that because he's dodgy or because as a pub landlord, when he challenges people, he needs to be sure and assertive of his own demenour? especially running a pub where he does?

i'm very sorry that you and your friend felt uncomfortable there. i'm almost certain that the landlord didn't mean to make you feel that way. but some of what you perceive as aggression and hostility is actually why he's been able to run a lovely little generally friendly public house in an area of what was until recently a very deprived area of London and not get taken over by drug dealers or pimps or gangsters and so on. the albion is a decent little pub, i don't know the landlord personally but i know enough people to know he's alright, and whilst i understand why you might feel a bit arsey, i would hope you might also understand a bigger picture?
 
So initially you're disinclined to believe me:

Paulie Tandoori said:
i know people who know the landlord and be slightly surprised if that was the case.
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Then I'm 'projecting' a lot:

Paulie Tandoori said:
do you replay all this in your head a lot? sound like an awful lot of projection to me tbh.
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Then really it's P's fault for looking East Asian when she goes into a pub for a quick drink -- what else should she expect but some pub landlord jumping to all kinds of conclusions because of her ethnicity? Oh, and my fault too for taking things the wrong way and not seeing the bigger picture. (As to running a pub where he does -- have you been to Broadway Market recently..? Also a bit confused as we're talking about The Dove but you seem to be talking about The Albion?)

Paulie Tandoori said:
let's take the bull by the horns then. this bloke runs a pub in an inner city postcode. one of the things you can guarantee if you do this where he works is that thai people come in trying to sell porno dvds to customers. they bother a lot of the customers, who complain to him. in an effort to keep order, he attempts to keep a lid on it. hence he asked you and your friend what was happening. you took it to be aggressive clearly, but is that because he's dodgy or because as a pub landlord, when he challenges people, he needs to be sure and assertive of his own demenour? especially running a pub where he does?
i'm very sorry that you and your friend felt uncomfortable there. i'm almost certain that the landlord didn't mean to make you feel that way. but some of what you perceive as aggression and hostility is actually why he's been able to run a lovely little generally friendly public house in an area of what was until recently a very deprived area of London and not get taken over by drug dealers or pimps or gangsters and so on. the albion is a decent little pub, i don't know the landlord personally but i know enough people to know he's alright, and whilst i understand why you might feel a bit arsey, i would hope you might also understand a bigger picture?
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Anyway, surprised by your attitude but you've clearly already made your mind up about this so whatever.
 
Sue said:
So initially you're disinclined to believe me:



Then I'm 'projecting' a lot:



Then really it's P's fault for looking East Asian when she goes into a pub for a quick drink -- what else should she expect but some pub landlord jumping to all kinds of conclusions because of her ethnicity? Oh, and my fault too for taking things the wrong way and not seeing the bigger picture. (As to running a pub where he does -- have you been to Broadway Market recently..? Also a bit confused as we're talking about The Dove but you seem to be talking about The Albion?)



Anyway, surprised by your attitude but you've clearly already made your mind up about this so whatever.
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yes, i was completely wrong about which pub you were talking about, so apologies for that, as that was what i based much of what i wrote down previously. no, of course it's not your friends fault, i'm not suggesting it was or should be, and i understand why she would have taken umbrage. however, making stereotypical judgements based on previous experience will unfortunately often be something that people running pubs might do because of who comes in.

i've been arrested and strip searched after going in the spoons on stokey high st with an irish friend who was very drunk on her birthday, we came in with our cab driver and paid him in the pub as we needed to get some change. bar staff assumed we were buying drugs and called the cops. was i annoyed about what they'd done, yes, did they do it because dodgy people try to use the pub for shady business, yes, was that because they were racist?
 
Paulie Tandoori said:
let's take the bull by the horns then. this bloke runs a pub in an inner city postcode. one of the things you can guarantee if you do this where he works is that thai people come in trying to sell porno dvds to customers.
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i have been in many pubs during the day. i have been in many pubs in hackney during the day. i have never seen thai people coming in with porn dvds. pls tell me which pubs i can go to to get this sort of material as i am genuinely intrigued.
 
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