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Sue said:
Not sure how you can tell about Old St -- the whole roundabout is still a complete mess and seems a bit unclear how it's going to actually end up...
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it's going to end up as not a roundabout anymore. pedestrianised on the NW side, with two-way traffic on the remaining 3 sides.

the dutch have really good cycle-friendly roundabouts. would love to see more of them copied here.
 
Cerv said:
it's going to end up as not a roundabout anymore. pedestrianised on the NW side, with two-way traffic on the remaining 3 sides.

the dutch have really good cycle-friendly roundabouts. would love to see more of them copied here.
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What's that going to mean for buses?
 
As a driver I hope the changes to the Lea Bridge Roundabout don't cause too many problems, as I have to use it a lot. The Old St Roundabout doesn't bother me as I don't drive there much & it was a ball ache when I did drive there about 6 months ago , so will probably avoid in the future (which is the point of these sorts of schemes I guess)
 
marty21 said:
As a driver I hope the changes to the Lea Bridge Roundabout don't cause too many problems, as I have to use it a lot. The Old St Roundabout doesn't bother me as I don't drive there much & it was a ball ache when I did drive there about 6 months ago , so will probably avoid in the future (which is the point of these sorts of schemes I guess)
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I ended up having to go round the Old Street junction about a month ago, after what used to be a relatively simple journey got turned into a diversion nightmare because of road closures and no entries as part of the LowTrafficNeighbourhood around Cambridge Heath and Haggerston.

They seem to have made it effectively impossible to get from the top of Cambridge Heath Road onto Kingsland Road.

Maybe it's because I remember it as an actual roundabout, but I found the new layout totally confusing and quite counter-intuitive. And yeah, it still looks a complete mess...

The problem with making driving into a total ball ache in the hope that it will discourage drivers is that there are lots of journeys like deliveries, waste collection, maintenance and other service activities which are necessary and can't be done anyway than by motor vehicle. Forcing everyone into to increasing fewer roads and making drivers go on long detours to get where they need to go doesn't really solve the problem, as far as I can see.
 
andysays said:
I ended up having to go round the Old Street junction about a month ago, after what used to be a relatively simple journey got turned into a diversion nightmare because of road closures and no entries as part of the LowTrafficNeighbourhood around Cambridge Heath and Haggerston.

Maybe it's because I remember it as an actual roundabout, but I found the new layout totally confusing and quite counter-intuitive. And yeah, it still looks a complete mess...

The problem with making driving into a total ball ache in the hope that it will discourage drivers is that there are lots of journeys like deliveries, waste collection, maintenance and other service activities which are necessary and can't be done anyway than by motor vehicle. Forcing everyone into to increasing fewer roads and making drivers go on long detours to get where they need to go doesn't really solve the problem, as far as I can see.
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Yep , I agree . In connected news, I've seen a fair bit of opposition to the upcoming bus gate on Stoke Newington Church St , they have one in my home town of Bath , and I avoid the city centre as a result , which can be a ball-ache , but as I'm only driving in Bath a few times a year , not really a hassle. I generally walk up to Stokie , but if I'm going with Mrs21, she likes me to drive 😅 and I'm not sure how the bus gate will affect that.
 
andysays said:
I ended up having to go round the Old Street junction about a month ago, after what used to be a relatively simple journey got turned into a diversion nightmare because of road closures and no entries as part of the LowTrafficNeighbourhood around Cambridge Heath and Haggerston.

They seem to have made it effectively impossible to get from the top of Cambridge Heath Road onto Kingsland Road.

Maybe it's because I remember it as an actual roundabout, but I found the new layout totally confusing and quite counter-intuitive. And yeah, it still looks a complete mess...

The problem with making driving into a total ball ache in the hope that it will discourage drivers is that there are lots of journeys like deliveries, waste collection, maintenance and other service activities which are necessary and can't be done anyway than by motor vehicle. Forcing everyone into to increasing fewer roads and making drivers go on long detours to get where they need to go doesn't really solve the problem, as far as I can see.
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I got a 243 bus from town to home a bit ago. When it got to Old St, because it couldn't go round the roundabout, it went on the most convoluted diversion through the backstreets of Islington I've ever seen. I literally would've been much much faster getting off at Old St and walking. :(
 
andysays said:
Maybe it's because I remember it as an actual roundabout, but I found the new layout totally confusing and quite counter-intuitive. And yeah, it still looks a complete mess...
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it takes a few goes to get used to - similar confusion for me at elephant
 
marty21 said:
consultations.tfl.gov.uk

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Apparently there was a consultation 2 years ago , I don't remember hearing about this at all.
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Looking at the plan included there, it would actually be really easy to take the cycle-way off Lea Bridge Road along Wattisfield Road or Cornthwaite Road, then up either Newick Road or Mildenhall Road to cross Lower Clapton Road at the existing junction and then down Downs Road and Cricketfield Road, missing the roundabout altogether.

If I was still a cyclist and was making that journey regularly, I think that's the route I'd take, even without a dedicated cycle-way.
 
andysays said:
Looking at the plan included there, it would actually be really easy to take the cycle-way off Lea Bridge Road along Wattisfield Road or Cornthwaite Road, then up either Newick Road or Mildenhall Road to cross Lower Clapton Road at the existing junction and then down Downs Road and Cricketfield Road, missing the roundabout altogether.

If I was still a cyclist and was making that journey regularly, I think that's the route I'd take, even without a dedicated cycle-way.
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That sounds a good option
 
Sue said:
I got a 243 bus from town to home a bit ago. When it got to Old St, because it couldn't go round the roundabout, it went on the most convoluted diversion through the backstreets of Islington I've ever seen. I literally would've been much much faster getting off at Old St and walking. :(
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I haven't been through there on a bus for years. I think my wife used to get the 243 to work sometimes, back in the pre-Covid old days.

It does seem a bit bizarre that schemes which are advertised as making things better for those who don't/can't travel by private car end up making things worse for those travelling by bus :confused:
 
andysays said:
I haven't been through there on a bus for years. I think my wife used to get the 243 to work sometimes, back in the pre-Covid old days.

It does seem a bit bizarre that schemes which are advertised as making things better for those who don't/can't travel by private car end up making things worse for those travelling by bus :confused:
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It's quite a useful bus for me (faster than the 76 if I want to go to the Southbank). Hopefully they'll sort all this out... :hmm:
 
Sue said:
I got a 243 bus from town to home a bit ago. When it got to Old St, because it couldn't go round the roundabout, it went on the most convoluted diversion through the backstreets of Islington I've ever seen. I literally would've been much much faster getting off at Old St and walking. :(
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I love those mystery tours :thumbs:
 
In other news, I got Covid tested on Tuesday at a pop-up test centre at Woodberry Down, and noticed they were outside Sainsburys in Stamford Hill yesterday.

Did you say you were involved in Covid testing BillRiver? Are you doing the pop-up thing, or are you based at one of the static centres?

And I got an "I ❤️ Hackney" bag full of masks and hand gel, but still no sticker :mad:
 
andysays said:
In other news, I got Covid tested on Tuesday at a pop-up test centre at Woodberry Down, and noticed they were outside Sainsburys in Stamford Hill yesterday.

Did you say you were involved in Covid testing BillRiver? Are you doing the pop-up thing, or are you based at one of the static centres?

And I got an "I ❤️ Hackney" bag full of masks and hand gel, but still no sticker :mad:
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No, I volunteer at the vaccination centre, I'm not involved in testing.

I'm jealous that you got an I ❤ Hackney bag!

I went in to Hackney Museum today, trying to buy one for my nibling who is heading to Edinburgh on 10th to start university. She was born in Hackney, has lived here all her life. I got her a bunch of little gifts I wanted to wrap in one of those bags, but no luck. The woman at the museum said the council stopped them selling anything cos covid and still hasn't lifted the ban :(

But hey, after reading your post I have hope! I'll pop up to Sainsbury’s at Stamford Hill (and Woodberry Down too if necessary) to see if they're outside tomorrow and try to get one that way. Thanks for the tip :)
 
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BillRiver said:
No, I volunteer at the vaccination centre, I'm not involved in testing.

I'm jealous that you got an I ❤ Hackney bag!

I went in to Hackney Museum today, trying to buy one for my nibling who is heading to Edinburgh on 10th to start university. She was born in Hackney, has lived here all her life. I got her a bunch of little gifts I wanted to wrap in one of those bags, but no luck. The woman at the museum said the council stopped them selling anything cos covid and still hasn't lifted the ban :(

But hey, after reading your post I have hope! I'll pop up to Sainsbury’s at Stamford Hill (and Woodberry Down too if necessary) to see if they're outside tomorrow and try to get one that way. Thanks for the tip :)
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Knew you were involved somehow but obviously misremembered the details.

I spoke to the person who gave me the bag of goodies and apparently they don't have an actual timetable of where they're going, they get told at the beginning of each week where they will be popping up and when. But that one team is apparently covering all of Hackney, and isn't likely to return to those particular locations for two or three weeks.

If you're still looking for an "I ❤️ Hackney" bag for your nibling to take to Edinburgh by the end of next week, drop me a PM and you can have mine.
 
The annual Clapton Jumble Trail, raising funds for Millfields Primary School, is on Sunday 19th September this year, and I'm doing a stall in my mate's front garden at 26 Coopersale Road, E9 6BA.

There'll be at least two other households doing stalls in Coopersale Road, and lots more dotted all over Lower Clapton and Homerton.

My stall will also be raising funds for the Palestinian Animals League. They not only help animals (mainly cats and dogs) but also human children (through educational and therapeutic activities) in Palestine. I'm going to give them 50% of whatever I raise on the day.

On my stall will be small houseplants, books, bags, bric a brac, and clothes, lot of clothes, for all ages, genders, shapes and sizes. All in good nick, no scruffy tat :)

More info via Clapton Jumble Trail on social media, where there will (soon) be maps provided showing where all the stalls are.

I've also posted pics of some of the items I have for sale on my Instagram page (billygued) and will do more of that in the run up to 19th.
 
I've passed this house in Southgate Road many times on the 76 bus and the name always makes me smile :D
Today I noticed it was up for sale (under offer) so I was just checking out for photos of the inside - very nice - sadly way out of my price range!

www.themodernhouse.com

For Sale: Seaview Cottage, London N1 | The Modern House

A deceptively spacious home four-bedroom home lies behind the delightful frontage of Seaview Cottage on Southgate Road, De Beauvoir.
www.themodernhouse.com www.themodernhouse.com
 
blossie33 said:
I've passed this house in Southgate Road many times on the 76 bus and the name always makes me smile :D
Today I noticed it was up for sale (under offer) so I was just checking out for photos of the inside - very nice - sadly way out of my price range!

www.themodernhouse.com

For Sale: Seaview Cottage, London N1 | The Modern House

A deceptively spacious home four-bedroom home lies behind the delightful frontage of Seaview Cottage on Southgate Road, De Beauvoir.
www.themodernhouse.com www.themodernhouse.com
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Yeh I've always liked the name too :)
 
blossie33 said:
I've passed this house in Southgate Road many times on the 76 bus and the name always makes me smile :D
Today I noticed it was up for sale (under offer) so I was just checking out for photos of the inside - very nice - sadly way out of my price range!

www.themodernhouse.com

For Sale: Seaview Cottage, London N1 | The Modern House

A deceptively spacious home four-bedroom home lies behind the delightful frontage of Seaview Cottage on Southgate Road, De Beauvoir.
www.themodernhouse.com www.themodernhouse.com
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It looks lovely but #howfuckingmuch?
 
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