Greedy landlords rub their hands with glee as Londoners queue in the cold to buy flats

[Pickman's model]

... sort your own out Diamond

 

[Diamond]

Are you using this train of argument at work, Diamond?

I don't have a real estate practice.

I made that clear to you several pages back but you seem to have forgetten.

My only professional interest in the area is pro bono housing matters, which is admittedly fiendishly difficult and which I wish I could generate better results from.

 

[Pickman's model]

Just thinking about this - maybe the problem is that you like to define groups with having bright line boundaries and thoroughly integrated interests and responses.

Maybe that's why when I suggest that someone with a lesser degree of a condition (or characteristic) might find a comment relating to that condition (or characteristic) less offensive than a person possessing a higher degree of that condition (or characteristic) finding the same comment more offensive, you run in to difficulties.

It's a fine point but you'll probably get it, if you bother to give it any thought.

let me put it this way. i work in a hospital nd see people with a wide range of afflictions, at a range of severities. it is not slways the worst afflicted who are the most sensitive.

 

[Diamond]

you're a member of that group who has declared offence to what was said in proportion to severity of affliction, on no evidence: YOUR ignorant muddleheaded fuckwittery there for all to see above. before you have a pop at anyone else's reasoning

This is so incoherent that I am having real difficulty trying to decipher what any of it means. Can you set your points out with a little more clarity please?

 

[Pickman's model]

This is so incoherent that I am having real difficulty trying to decipher what any of it means. Can you set your points out with a little more clarity please?

it is very simple. you said above people more severely afflicted may take more umbrage than you. you do not know this. you have no grounds for your assertion. you are having difficulties because you are, as i said above, ignorant and muddleheaded.

 

[Diamond]

let me put it this way. i work in a hospital nd see people with a wide range of afflictions, at a range of severities. it is not slways the worst afflicted who are the most sensitive.

I didn't say that was always the case - my point was that if you have (1) a person who has had one seizure over the course of their life and (2) a person who has suffered them on a far more regular basis, then person 2 may feel more aggrieved about casual, offhand, dismissive, pretentious and ultimately offensive turns of phrase such as was used by kabbes.

Of course, anyone is entitled to take that view anyway, but I would suggest, in lukewarm debate with a companion who makes, unwittingly, a point that indirectly exploits that person's disability, the one targeted has reasonable grounds for grievance.

 

[Pickman's model]

I didn't say that was always the case - my point was that if you have (1) a person who has had one seizure over the course of their life and (2) a person who has suffered them on a far more regular basis, then person 2 may feel more aggrieved about casual, offhand, dismissive, pretentious and ultimately offensive turns of phrase such as was used by kabbes.

Of course, anyone is entitled to take that view anyway, but I would suggest, in lukewarm debate with a companion who makes, unwittingly, a point that indirectly exploits that person's disability, the one targeted has reasonable grounds for grievance.

you don't want to stop digging?

 

[Diamond]

you don't want to stop digging?

Do you view all discussion as a contest?

 

[Pickman's model]

Do you view all discussion as a contest?

i don't view your inventions as helpful to any discussion eg your 'always' nonsense

 

[equationgirl]

I didn't say that was always the case - my point was that if you have (1) a person who has had one seizure over the course of their life and (2) a person who has suffered them on a far more regular basis, then person 2 may feel more aggrieved about casual, offhand, dismissive, pretentious and ultimately offensive turns of phrase such as was used by kabbes.

Of course, anyone is entitled to take that view anyway, but I would suggest, in lukewarm debate with a companion who makes, unwittingly, a point that indirectly exploits that person's disability, the one targeted has reasonable grounds for grievance.

That is utter rubbish, on both points.

 

[lambro]

I'm afraid I'm too angry to put together a coherent comment here, but take a deep breath and read on:

One bedroom flat for £400,000!!!!

I would say fuck that but what other options to home buyers really have in the London house market?

Maybe stop non residents from buying which would cut out overseas investors ramping up prices all the time

 

[Diamond]

I know people are extremely unpleasent on urban very often - mainly because of the online disinhibition effect - but reading back over these last few pages, I think people need to maybe reflect a little.

 

[editor]

I know people are extremely unpleasent on urban very often - mainly because of the online disinhibition effect - but reading back over these last few pages, I think people need to maybe reflect a little.

Especially anyone that has thrown around deeply unpleasant and utterly groundless insinuations of racism, and refused to apologise when challenged by multiple posters about their conduct.

 

[coley]

Do you view all discussion as a contest?

Can we move on from you and your medical problems and back to the issue in hand?

 

[Diamond]

Especially anyone that has thrown around deeply unpleasant and utterly groundless insinuations of racism, and refused to apologise when challenged by multiple posters about their conduct.

Show that racism.

 

[editor]

Show that racism.

It's been repeatedly and patiently pointed out to you by several posters now, but sadly you're too ignorant/stupid/arrogant/puffed up* to see it/admit it.

(*choose whichever is applicable)

 

[Diamond]

It's been repeatedly and patiently pointed out to you by several posters now, but sadly you're too ignorant/stupid/arrogant/puffed up* to see it/admit it.

(*choose whichever is applicable)

You can insult me all you want but it is plain that your curses are surrogates for your lack of argument.

That is clear.

 

[editor]

You can insult me all you want but it is plain that your curses are surrogates for your lack of argument.

That is clear.

You're not going to bluff your way out of this, sunshine. You've been caught out and called out. Repeatedly.

 

[Humberto]

You can insult me all you want but it is plain that your curses are surrogates for your lack of argument.

That is clear.

I swear you are looking for an argument. Nothing to see here.

 

[Diamond]

You're not going to bluff your way out of this, sunshine. You've been caught out and called out. Repeatedly.

OK pal, you carry on with you and your fans. I'm sure that they provide you with sufficient succour for your lazy thinking.

 

[Humberto]

OK pal, you carry on with you and your fans. I'm sure that they provide you with sufficient succour for your lazy thinking.

Back up. You have accused people of racism, when the objection was clearly that the person was property speculating on high rents. You haven't answered that crticism so you end up looking like an idiot who doesn't read others posts.

 

[Diamond]

I haven't accused anyone of racism at any point in time.

 

[Diamond]

If you can demonstrate to the counter I would be interested to know.

 

[Diamond]

Instead, some people who are rather lazy with their thinking and keen with their keyboards have decided that I am flinging mud.

 

[Diamond]

None of them can conclusively show it, and that's why all of them use the shield of "slur" when they try and make their terribly weak, almost laughable points. It's like coming against a propaganda machine...

 

[editor]

If you can demonstrate to the counter I would be interested to know.

What's the point? You just ignore everything that is posted, such is your pig headed stubbornness and inability to admit defeat.

But let's try putting it another way in the hope that it might sink in. Why do you think that so many people in this thread keep telling you that what you posted was clearly an insinuation of racism? Why do you think they would do that?

 

[Humberto]

And, I think it is rather bizarre that we're focusing on Mr Chiu in our discussion when there were numerous other applicants quoted in the original article - is it maybe because he is foreign and what does that imply?

Speaks for itself

 

[Diamond]

What's the point? You just ignore everything that is posted, such is your pig headed stubbornness and inability to admit defeat.

But let's try putting it another way in the hope that it might sink in. Why do you think that so many people in this thread keep telling you that what you posted was clearly an insinuation of racism? Why do you think they would do that?

There have been maybe four or five people supporting your groundless arguments.

Are they your lackeys - maybe, maybe not - it probably depends on the definition.

But I know that if I were in your position, I would not rely on the following proposition to found my arguments:

"all my mates think the same"

And then - most importantly - where is your evidence?

 

[Diamond]

Speaks for itself

Yes, it does. You are entirely correct. The operative word in that sentence being "foreign".

Do you have difficulty in understanding how that definition interelates with (i) xenophobia and (ii) racism because I can explain if that is required?

 

[Humberto]

Yes, it does. You are entirely correct. The operative word in that sentence being "foreign".

Do you have difficulty in understanding how that definition interelates with (i) xenophobia and (ii) racism because I can explain if that is required?

Fuck off. Your the one with the problem.