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Gone fishing with Mortimer and Whitehouse

They don't kill the fish tbf
I watch the programme and like the chat. It makes me laugh. But I'm a bit conflicted about this part of it.

I became a vegetarian because of fishing. My grandad used to take me fishing, and it was that exposure, as a child, to the relationship between humans and prey that convinced me I didn't want to eat prey. And yet I do kind of think it's worse to catch and release. I have more respect for carnivores who are relaxed about where their food comes from.
 
I watch the programme and like the chat. It makes me laugh. But I'm a bit conflicted about this part of it.

I became a vegetarian because of fishing. My grandad used to take me fishing, and it was that exposure, as a child, to the relationship between humans and prey that convinced me I didn't want to eat prey. And yet I do kind of think it's worse to catch and release. I have more respect for carnivores who are relaxed about where their food comes from.
I find the idea of fishing without the eating a bit strange. It's basically 'Let's go and hurt some fish for a laugh'. I only recently discovered that there was such a thing - I had assumed that the whole point of fishing was to catch something for your supper. That would be the rewarding bit for me - it would give the activity a point.
 
I find the idea of fishing without the eating a bit strange. It's basically 'Let's go and hurt some fish for a laugh'. I only recently discovered that there was such a thing - I had assumed that the whole point of fishing was to catch something for your supper. That would be the rewarding bit for me - it would give the activity a point.

The point is to catch a fish, ergo it has a point.
 
I find the idea of fishing without the eating a bit strange. It's basically 'Let's go and hurt some fish for a laugh'. I only recently discovered that there was such a thing - I had assumed that the whole point of fishing was to catch something for your supper. That would be the rewarding bit for me - it would give the activity a point.
That's like saying mountaineering is pointless because you can't take the mountain home with you.
 
But climbing it is the point of climbing it. Catching fish is the point of fishing.
Climbing has no particular point other than for itself, but doing so doesn't hurt other things. Fishing has no particular point other than for itself unless you then eat what you catch, and doing so does hurt other things. The fact you're causing hurt changes the equation wrt doing it for itself, imo. I think the same about any kind of hunting. I don't think your comparison works at all, and you appear to have completely missed my point. I don't expect you to agree with me, but I also don't think your comparison is valid.
 
Climbing has no particular point other than for itself, but doing so doesn't hurt other things. Fishing has no particular point other than for itself unless you then eat what you catch, and doing so does hurt other things. The fact you're causing hurt changes the equation wrt doing it for itself, imo. I think the same about any kind of hunting. I don't think your comparison works at all, and you appear to have completely missed my point. I don't expect you to agree with me, but I also don't think your comparison is valid.

Having a bad day? The point of angling is to catch the fish, catching fish is the point of angling. The ability to eat the fish, laws, regs etc depending is a bonus. You claim the ability to eat the fish is the point, you are no pun intended missing the point.
 
I find the idea of fishing without the eating a bit strange. It's basically 'Let's go and hurt some fish for a laugh'. I only recently discovered that there was such a thing - I had assumed that the whole point of fishing was to catch something for your supper. That would be the rewarding bit for me - it would give the activity a point.

If you catch a sea bass and take it for tea in the UK you can get up to a 2500 quid fine
 
Fishing was always part of growing up for me in WC neighbourhoods- it was a way for the men to get away from the grime and shit and coal dust for a day and keep off the drink- but the fishing was something to look forward to that got people out of the city and into another world.All my uncles fished at the weekends, all 8 of them got the fuck out of the factories and shipyards for a day on the lochs.
 
Fishing was always part of growing up for me in WC neighbourhoods- it was a way for the men to get away from the grime and shit and coal dust for a day and keep off the drink- but the fishing was something to look forward to that got people out of the city and into another world.All my uncles fished at the weekends, all 8 of them got the fuck out of the factories and shipyards for a day on the lochs.
It was a massive thing when I was a kid. Going fishing with an adult for the first time. It was like a rite of passage, where you were suddenly no longer a child.
 
I'm loving this. Whitehouse had a brief muse on how he and Enfield wrote stuff. I'd love to know Vic and Bob came up with some of their stuff, e.g. the Man with the Stick, The Bra Men, etc.
 
It’s a nice, steady series about two blokes talking about life and death.
Just the sheer enjoyment of having a mate who has been through the same shit. Fishing or hill walking or whatever is just a means of showing the absolute joy of not being dead or incapable of enjoying good company and a few laughs.

I see John Bailey is the fishing advisor.
It’s not about tackle and methods to be fair. It’s just about life.

There are plenty of programmes covering the practice of angling, as above Catching the Impossible was brilliant. A personal favourite was Jack Hargreaves in Out of Town.
 
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Finally got round to watching this. On ep. 4 now. It's genuinely lovely. And a bit sad, even though it's not, really. I've long thought Bob Mortimer to be one of the most naturally funny blokes on telly and he is - I've been crying with laughter at random stuff he says and does - but Paul Whitehouse is also very funny.

I don't want this to stop.
 
I liked it enough to start with but it got samey. Mortimer was sparky but Whitehouse was phoning it in, while distracted by fishing and aging.

Around E2 it looked like it might have structure and something to say on mortality, men and death and family, or something. It didn't really.

Almost like an unintentional parody of Grand Designs.
 
I know he's at a more mellow and reflective point in his life, but still, he comes across as a gentle and sensitive joker...love his attitude. I particularly like/relate to the crying at seeing Joni Mitchell. My impression is his comedy doesn't seem to come from laughing at anyone, it comes from wanting to laugh with your friends as a route to happiness.
 
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