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George Osborne: Cops raid home of ex-vice madam about to publish book on top Tories

The only accurate way to ascertain whether someone has been on the marching powder is via a drugs test. If you fail the test they don't say, "oh, it's probable this occurred on Saturday night so that's ok", they say "drugs test failed - gross misconduct."

Which just goes to show how rubbish drugs testing is as a method of determining suitability for work, does it not?
 
Which just goes to show how rubbish drugs testing is as a method of determining suitability for work, does it not?

I imagine the companies that test have a keen interest in the legality of your weekend proclivities. Which is probably why the financial district and parliament don't have mandatory drug testing, which you apparently agree with.
 
I imagine the companies that test have a keen interest in the legality of your weekend proclivities. Which is probably why the financial district and parliament don't have mandatory drug testing, which you apparently agree with.

Do you really think drugs are the main problem with politicians and finance? Because I think that's a naive viewpoint at best.
 
So what meaningful difference do you imagine drug testing would make?

I think this needs nipping in the bud. We appear to have gone down some cul-de-sac caused in part from you bringing alcohol into the equation and by my pedantry. I'm really not bothered if politicians get drug tested or not. But with regards to this thread, if they do get caught powdering their nose then that can be damaging to them and therefore it's useful. And I absolutely do think that the laws that apply to the working class, laws that are often aggressively enforced, should also apply to the law makers.
 
that chief adviser has been smoking crack and beating sex workers, if it was one of us it'd be Jeremy Kyle and courts not the papers.

Apparently he's stepped down to sort himself out but will be returning to his role when it's all blown over. No police investigation no nothing. Not even losing his job.
 
Apparently he's stepped down to sort himself out but will be returning to his role when it's all blown over. No police investigation no nothing. Not even losing his job.
He will probably do what they all do, admit to 'making a mistake' which is bollocks because if they hadn't got caught they would still be doing it.
 
Re smoking crack. If he chooses that as his hobby then so be it. Nothing to do with me.
It is kind of something to do with you given his influential position and the fact that if all this is true (which I suspect it is) he has been off his nut on crack for a significant period while making decisions that affect all of us. Whilst I am not against people being off their nuts I don't think anyone would consider it a great state to be making important economic decisions in, not that he would necessarily do much better straight.

The fact that he is getting off scot free with both that and the assaults because he's a VIP, or rather the massive yet routinely accepted corruption in the legal system that that represents, should probably concern you too I would say.
 
Obviously the assault isn't acceptable but I haven't seen any evidence the crack affected his work life. As I don't think drug use should be a bar to employment per se I would have to be a hypocrite to get all in a fluster about this fellows crack binges.

Some people smoke crack, get over it.
 
Yes I would agree with that, Its always the same old adversaries trying to call each other out. I guess many posters who might have interesting contributions to make find they simply can't be arsed.

Have you heard of twitter? Apparently its booming. There's also mummerings that people can be quite rude to one another there...
 
There's also mummerings .

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Have you heard of twitter? Apparently its booming. There's also mummerings that people can be quite rude to one another there...
This isn't Twitter. Urban has much fewer regular posters. Comparing Twitter to Urban is like comparing world war to a pub brawl.
 
Obviously the assault isn't acceptable but I haven't seen any evidence the crack affected his work life. As I don't think drug use should be a bar to employment per se I would have to be a hypocrite to get all in a fluster about this fellows crack binges.

Some people smoke crack, get over it.



You don't think that a habitual crack smoker might not be the best bloke to be chief adviser to the chancellor of the exchequer?
 
I am wondering what with the vid whether they are actually crack smoking buddies. Seems altogether too likely.
 
You don't think that a habitual crack smoker might not be the best bloke to be chief adviser to the chancellor of the exchequer?

It seemed more of a session based habit rather than a case of a pipe before a meeting habit so unless there is evidence it has affected his judgement at work it should be left as a private matter.
 
Perhaps it's what led to him knocking the working girl about? It's a criminal, not a 'private' matter.

I would put the fact he is probably a cunt of the highest order as more causative of the assault than his use of crack. I am sure he blames the crack. At the end of the day people all across the world smoke the stuff without beating up women - But let's not let common sense get in the way of drug stereotypes, hey.
 
I would put the fact he is probably a cunt of the highest order as more causative of the assault than his use of probably not very good quality crack.

Stim use probably accelerates his natural cuntishness. The same as booze can make those with violent thoughts act them out. He deserves to be in a cell, not getting a nice salary for giving advice to the government.
 
I was actually quite impressed by his response to the revelations. No bleating about just a recognition he needs to re-arrange his work load.Having said that, he obviously needs to be prosecuted for the assault.
 
I was actually quite impressed by his response to the revelations. No bleating about just a recognition he needs to re-arrange his work load.Having said that, he obviously needs to be prosecuted for the assault.

Anyone else would have been up for gross misconduct for bringing the name of their firm into disrepute. You know, it's perfectly reasonable to think that people with drug problems need help and support rather than penalising; but it sticks in the craw when the only ones getting help and support are the ones sending everyone below their social position to prison for the same.
 
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