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George Osborne: Cops raid home of ex-vice madam about to publish book on top Tories
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Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Those who know will understand.gid will know his own?
andysays
Love and solidarity
From that Mirror story
So he's clearly just doing his bit to help the UK economy, just as we know his boss has in the past.
If only some of you bastards knocking him could claim to have made such a significant personal contribution...
Nancy_Winks
Well-Known Member
What's wrong with you? The main issue is that he beat a working girl. The cunt. How are you able to overlook that?Is there the same outrage among the voting public about drug taking politicians nowadays than there would have been many yrs ago though? I'm sure Camo & all the rest smoked dope & snorted coke in the past & may enjoy the odd line now when they get together with Boris & so on. Possibly the main issue here with the crack head Prof is that he is spotted getting wasted like a prole when he should be discreetly doing his drugs with Camo & co in luxury central London penthouse apartments.
SaskiaJayne
Rural Guerrilla
If you read the thread you will see the links were edited later, when I wrote that post it was a different link with no mention of the beating. I wrote the post after reading link in #23 in fact.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
That's simply not true - treelover's post contained the beating headline and details from the very start - it was the link rather than the claim that disappeared - that, after all, was the point of it.
SaskiaJayne
Rural Guerrilla
Well perhaps I did not read all the links then? My response was after reading the link in #23. Generally I am finding the thought of top Tories snorting coke quite amusing but obviously they should not beat sex workers. Glad to see everybody is on the ball though.
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Nylock
I hate 'these days'...
stuff_it
Too skool for cool
Afaik it was all something "god, or whatever you call your favoured sky pixie(s) only ever said stuff like "take some holidays from work, don't be too much of a cunt, and don't eat unrefrigerated seafood/wish ill on someone/go out in the noonday sun/whatever". I reckon if there is a beardy old white guy somewhere in a dress waiting for the livingly impaired he's going to want words with quite a few people.
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SaskiaJayne
Rural Guerrilla
Yes I would agree with that, Its always the same old adversaries trying to call each other out. I guess many posters who might have interesting contributions to make find they simply can't be arsed.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
At the risk of being called a degenerate (oh boo hoo you wound me so), when politicians get caught using drugs it's not that so much as the hypocrisy and/or double standards that bother me. I'm sure if publicly asked about it Georgie Boy would go all po-faced and toe the party line about drugs being baaaad mm'kay. Privately I suspect he's of the mind that it's one rule for him and his ilk and another for everyone else.
As for the effect on judgement, then unless it's known that they do their "work" while high, then that's like assuming that someone who enjoys a drink is inevitably in the habit of drinking at work.
As for the effect on judgement, then unless it's known that they do their "work" while high, then that's like assuming that someone who enjoys a drink is inevitably in the habit of drinking at work.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
plus regular coke heads...well...how can I put this...
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
I'm pretty sure alcohol remains active in the blood for a lot longer than coke does. According to Erowid: "Onset varies depending on method of ingestion. Snorting cocaine will produce effects within a minute ... The effects of snorted cocaine are quite short with the primary high lasting only 20-40 minutes". For a total duration of say, 45 minutes.
Alcohol, by comparison:
Again, that makes un-evidenced assumptions about their patterns of drug use. Besides, even if they were racking up four thick rails of Colombia's finest marching powder every morning just before arriving at work, I somehow doubt they would become a more kindly and competent bunch of administrators if they were to kick such a habit. Their major malfunctions are more a consequence of wider structural issues in politics, society and economics than it is of their personal chemical proclivities.
Cocaine (or metabolites it produces which will show up in a drug test) can remain in the blood for up to four days. That's what you get sacked for - failing a drugs test; not whether you're actually high or not.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
That's because current drug testing regimes are predicated on the notion that anyone who takes any illegal drugs whatsoever is automatically and unfailingly a worthless wastrel who deserves to lose their job immediately. Do you subscribe to that notion?
Do I subscribe to the notion that those who impose drug laws and dream up sentencing guidelines should perhaps be under the same scrutiny as the rest of us? Absolutely. Don't you?
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
I thought we were talking about drug tests? I know from personal experience that one doesn't have to be tested to fall foul of the law. I've never been drug tested at all, in fact.
SaskiaJayne
Rural Guerrilla
It explains Dave's agitated & wild eyed performances at PM's question time, I suppose.
mack
Fact Me Till I Fart
I thought we were talking about members of parliament and their cronies and drug use. Then you started chipping in with stuff that I was forced to correct.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
People were talking about impacts on job performance. It's one thing to be actually high - it's quite another to merely have metabolites in one's bloodstream.
The only accurate way to ascertain whether someone has been on the marching powder is via a drugs test. If you fail the test they don't say, "oh, it's probable this occurred on Saturday night so that's ok", they say "drugs test failed - gross misconduct."
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