General Election 2015 - chat, predictions, results and post election discussion

[DotCommunist]

thing is, evil lingers. Only the good fade early. See: thatcher, pinochet, klause barbie.

on that logic he might retain his seat

 

[imposs1904]

SNP Landslide according to Grindr users in Edinburgh

I thought the Spunking Cock Party might have been in with a chance.

 

[Wilf]

Ashcroft poll has Cons up 6%:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2015_United_Kingdom_general_election#2015
Bit of a pattern over the last 10 days, just as many having Lab in the lead, but the polls showing Con leads have a bigger % lead. The Ashcroft one has a smaller sample than some, but Lab will be worried.

 

[brogdale]

You know Reg? Excellent chap! Was in the Bullingdon, if I recall correctly. Used to like to stick bread rolls up the waiters' arses.

They thought that they knew Reg...turns out that they hadn't done their homework...twunts.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...nesses-cameron#block-553e643fe4b00d721cc4fc26

 

[miktheword]

Ashcroft poll has Cons up 6%:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2015_United_Kingdom_general_election#2015
Bit of a pattern over the last 10 days, just as many having Lab in the lead, but the polls showing Con leads have a bigger % lead. The Ashcroft one has a smaller sample than some, but Lab will be worried.

Ashcroft also has Tories massively beating Lab in Scotland.

Sample size of over 2,000 have 1% Labour leads (I read, can't quote) But phone polling showing Tory leads to On-line labour ones seems a more consistent pattern. Ashcroft still has swings to labour in the marginal as does ICM today , Labour ahead by 4% in battleground seats (small sub sample again)

also a comment on UKPR, ICM unweighted – just 3 voters between Lab and Con (22%-21%). It was only reallocation of DK and likelihood to vote that put Con 3% ahead. Also, having a high weighting to who you voted for in 2010 will underscore Labour and overstate Tory, Lib Dem.

 

[chilango]

My map is coming along well. All Green and Red though. Walking the long way around to places to try and get more data now.

 

[two sheds]

My daily walk has lately been spoiled by a row of tory billboards along an estate hedge blocking the view of the treetrunks behind them. Some thoughtful soul has removed them though, and stored them face down on the path .

 

[killer b]

hm. I think the tory party have broken the DPA - this is their disclaimer at the bottom of their small business letter.

 

[not-bono-ever]

off her face

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...dependent-manifesto_n_7152856.html?1430150232

 

[mk12]

I like her stance on animal cruelty.

 

[eatmorecheese]

off her face

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...dependent-manifesto_n_7152856.html?1430150232

Say what you like, no ambiguity on the manifesto commitments there

 

[Dogsauce]

She's just wanting to take NI forward to the 1950s, for some constituents this will be boldly progressive and they'll want no part of it.

 

[Brixton Hatter]

she should be voted in, it'd be proper entertainment

 

[redsquirrel]

I like the fact that she doesn't just want the death penalty for ordinary murderers but also terrorist murderers.

 

[DotCommunist]

cctv in slaughterhouses? why, so she can sell the gore vids on the internet?

its not like anyones fucking the animals or anything, its just grim dirty and horrible.

 

[articul8]

actually I do agree with that - animal rights activists have done undercover filming and caught some proper abusive behaviour when they thought no-one was looking. If it helps to stop animals getting treated like that, why not?

 

[killer b]

You're in favour of workers being monitored every minute of their working day?

 

[articul8]

You're in favour of workers being monitored every minute of their working day?

in general? No. When it comes to protecting animals from abuse, it's a necessary evil.

 

[killer b]

I'd imagine an adequate inspection regime would suffice wouldn't it?

 

[Santino]

I got a leaflet telling me to vote for 'none of the above'.

 

[articul8]

in general? No. When it comes to protecting animals from abuse, it's a necessary evil.

might also apply for old folks homes - but obviously people should be properly paid, and any penalty fines etc should be levied at the bosses not solely at the workers.

 

[ViolentPanda]

cctv in slaughterhouses? why, so she can sell the gore vids on the internet?

Every woman should have an appropriate visual aid for banjo-strumming. Perhaps watching cows getting the bolt is what sets her nethers a-quivering?

 

[articul8]

I'd imagine an adequate inspection regime would suffice wouldn't it?

How do you define "adequate" - it's difficult for even "random" inspections to see what really goes on behind closed doors when no-one is watching.

 

[ViolentPanda]

actually I do agree with that - animal rights activists have done undercover filming and caught some proper abusive behaviour when they thought no-one was looking. If it helps to stop animals getting treated like that, why not?

It's already done in many slaughterhouses. Has been done since at least the late '80s. All this will do is make compulsory something that many abattoirs have in place.

 

[articul8]

It's already done in many slaughterhouses. Has been done since at least the late '80s. All this will do is make compulsory something that many abattoirs have in place.

OK - good, if it stops animal abuse

 

[ViolentPanda]

OK - good, if it stops animal abuse

Nothing will stop abuse by a determined person, but it does (alongside decent training) help minimise it.

 

[killer b]

What about all the workers who aren't determined abusers? Nothing to hide, nothing to fear?

 

[articul8]

Nothing will stop abuse by a determined person, but it does (alongside decent training) help minimise it.

ok - minimise it/stop it in so far as it is possible - still worthwhile. Same would apply to elder-abuse.

 

[articul8]

What about all the workers who aren't determined abusers? Nothing to hide, nothing to fear?

it would only be one part of the strategy - it would need to be accompanied by a thorough critique of industrial farming methods/ corporate profiteering from social/nursing "care" etc.

 

[andysays]

"won't somebody please think of the animals"...