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brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Well....actually that's not entirely unrelated. The 'wall' part of the place-name has the same (Anglo-Saxon imposed) derivation as does the 'Wal' in Wales, indicating that the location was one at which the invading Saxons came across a settlement of Britons. (originally "Waletone").I thought that 'Car&Wall' was 'Cornwall' being spelled in a regionalist accent
Although I'm a Jutish 'blow-in', I just wanted to point out the ancient British history of my adopted town. And Carshalton (orig. Aultone) has a very long history of habitation with an archeological record dating back to the neolithic.
Apols for off-thread ramble.
The Tories are livid about Milliband's attacks on Cameron over Libya, they claim he is partially blaming him for the catastrophe with the migrant boats. But the speech was more nuanced than that.
high stakes intervention by Ed here?
he was very impressive in his Chatham House speech on future labour foreign policy earlier.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
they've taken over a takeaway round the corner from me as their "election rooms"I dunno but judging by the WRP leaflet I just got I'm guessing that it wasn't them
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Just had the greens leaflet through. Rob Reeves, a man with a beard. Did he not get the 'never trust a man with a beard' memo?
he doesn't look like he weaves yogurt while planning to sterilise the proleteriat but he's probably hiding that. Behind his beard.
he doesn't look like he weaves yogurt while planning to sterilise the proleteriat but he's probably hiding that. Behind his beard.
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DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
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Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
What happens if they all want another election then? Have the rules changed?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Can you present any evidence or arguments to back up the numerous assertions in this post?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
chukka will swoop in to save the day for labour and lead us all into the Glorious Day
Where does this view come from? He's not been particularly impressive thus far. Is it because of those daft Obama comparisons from a few years ago?
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
Also I get the impression he's not well-liked either by activists or MPs
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I wasn't serious- but hes photographic (or do I mean telegenic? one of them), articulate, labour faithful, on QT a lot. Not beyond the realms ever surely? that he'd be in a position to go for a leadership challenge some day?
articul8
Dishonest sociopath
He's favoured by Mandelson now apparently. My money would be on Burnham as the "unity" candidate.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Leadership election takes months - no one swooping in or 'getting the boot' anytime soon.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
You've changed your fucking tune.
articul8
Dishonest sociopath
he's changed his fucking tune
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Can you knock the anti semitism on the head please?
butchersapron
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No he ain't. You were just wrong.
articul8
Dishonest sociopath
what??
articul8
Dishonest sociopath
he's shifted his ground - no doubt with an eye on the leadership...
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
No he hasn't. He hasn't moved an inch. You just didn't know your own party outside the bubble. I did.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
in what way?
articul8
Dishonest sociopath
He was quite pro PFI - he's opposition to the Health and Social Care Act has been more resolute than might have been feared, and he's done very well in that brief
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Was he pro-pfi in the leadership election campaign?
articul8
Dishonest sociopath
not if he'd any sense
butchersapron
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This is getting tiresome. Why can't you just answer a question related to your own claim?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
I missed any pro-PFIness. If he hadn't opposed the H&SCA wholeheartedly then he'd have been a complete idiot. He does seem to have been reasonably competent at that, its true, which is something of a change, I suppose.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
He was pro-pfi in the way that pretty much all labour people 97-2010 were. I don't see where he's changed his tune since 2010 - he hasn't.
It's a daft claim on articul8's part to make it that his idea that Burnham was "a pretty trivial figure" in 2010 is still correct and that the worlds has actually changed around his correctness. Everything else changed.
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