DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
theres a reason for keeping your chin shaven and your hair short if you might end up in a fair fight.
plus, the scruffy cunt.
General Election 2015 - chat, predictions, results and post election discussion
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theres a reason for keeping your chin shaven and your hair short if you might end up in a fair fight.
plus, the scruffy cunt.
Cid
Proper break this time
A bible for every cell, that's how to do rehabilitation.
coley
Well-Known Member
I am in Somerset for the weekend.
Coming down the A 303, I think I must have passed 4 deceased badgers at the roadside.
I think they have heard about the election result
(((suicidal badgers)))
Used the 303 for a few years, chock full of high end German cars and twats driving them, surprised there wasn't more people lying on the roadside, never mind badgers.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Yeah, that fucks me off too, not least because I did 11 hours yesterday starting at 7am.
I despise the 'hardworking families ' rhetoric with a passion. Divisive nastiness like that helped put the tories back in power.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
Of course there is, firstly because if the backbenchers start making trouble it might make it difficult for the government to pass legislation, and secondly because watching the Tories at war with themselves is always fun.
So long as the prevailing narrative is that your personal and the national finances are the things that matter to the exclusion of all else, why shouldn't people vote Tory? After all, improving finances is the thing the Tories are all about. The sizeable proportion of the population that get proper fucked financially by the Tories is nevertheless not sizable enough and too concentrated in particular areas to vote the Tories down.
If Labour want to make proper headway, it's that basic assumption that context-free absolute finances are the alpha and the omega that they need to challenge. They particularly need to focus on the incontrovertible proven fact that financial inequality hurts all of us, from them poorest right up to the richest. The irony of voting Tory for your self-benefit is that you are actually, in the end, harming yourself, even if your personal finances end up improving! Once people believe that, why would they vote Tory? It shouldn't be and can't be just a matter of relying on enlightened benevolence.
Labour then need to properly demonstrate how they are going to govern for all of our benefit rather than the benefit of either personal or national coffers.
One of the first lessons of salesmanship is to concentrate on benefits rather than features. Don't tell people that your doohickey can make tea and turn on the lights. Tell them why it benefits them to have their tea made and lights turned on. Selling a political philosophy is no different. You can't just say what you are going to do and rely on everybody filling in the gaps for themselves. You have to show people why it benefits them and their loved ones if you do what you will say you will do. This is where Labour have totally lost their way, because they no longer really know what it is they stand for, so how can they sell the benefits of it?
If Labour want to make proper headway, it's that basic assumption that context-free absolute finances are the alpha and the omega that they need to challenge. They particularly need to focus on the incontrovertible proven fact that financial inequality hurts all of us, from them poorest right up to the richest. The irony of voting Tory for your self-benefit is that you are actually, in the end, harming yourself, even if your personal finances end up improving! Once people believe that, why would they vote Tory? It shouldn't be and can't be just a matter of relying on enlightened benevolence.
Labour then need to properly demonstrate how they are going to govern for all of our benefit rather than the benefit of either personal or national coffers.
One of the first lessons of salesmanship is to concentrate on benefits rather than features. Don't tell people that your doohickey can make tea and turn on the lights. Tell them why it benefits them to have their tea made and lights turned on. Selling a political philosophy is no different. You can't just say what you are going to do and rely on everybody filling in the gaps for themselves. You have to show people why it benefits them and their loved ones if you do what you will say you will do. This is where Labour have totally lost their way, because they no longer really know what it is they stand for, so how can they sell the benefits of it?
Sod off then. Easy.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
too. far too left wing.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
not the mention 'the book of the law'
Nah, they keep changing that.
Indeed, but they have to do it by the Numbers.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Well, there's two different parliamentary seats that cover the council area, and people can and do vote differently in local and national elections. I don't think it's strange at all.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
overcrowding in pubs due to foreign lager
and wonder why some people in uk chose ukip over your party !
Libertad
Sparking up a rollie in the Reichstag
Oh do fuck off.
You're not too bright are you?
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Is it because of our Tony4real tattoos?
Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
Just leave. You're not starting an argument, you're not making a point, you're embarrassing yourself.
for most of my life I have been right wing doesn't make me racist, at this years election I voted plaid, but was happy at tories getting back in,
labour are bunch of tossers they don't care about working class or folk who do jobs which pay crap money ie council work,
your party labour is done as a force I think be years till get back in power ha ha ha
Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
Well done on answering a series of questions that weren't asked
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