General Election 2015 - chat, predictions, results and post election discussion

[farmerbarleymow]

This was tweeted by the Electoral Reform Society - the number of votes (rounded) to elect an MP of a given party.

SNP 26k
Tory cunt 34k
Labour 40k
Libdem 291k
Green 1.1m
UKIP 3.8m

 

[cesare]

Yeah, I know, just thinking of the kind of initiatives that will be ramped up as they speed the attack up. Anyway, fuck em all.

We have to ramp up our own initiatives.

 

[Grandma Death]

I think you might well be right. Hopefully the chuntering will start as soon as the initial euphoria at having won a majority - when, lest we forget, a lot of people thought the vermin might never be able to again - wears off. It's a small crumb of comfort for a black day, anyway.

Tbh, though, my sense of foreboding is getting worse. The one area in which you could be generous enough to give the Lib Dems a little credit for moderating the Tories is renewable energy, something a lot of the Tory right have very little time for. I imagine the renewables industry is eyeing the new government with a lot of trepidation. Round here, with offshore wind etc the best economic hope in a couple of generations, it could really fuck things up. Shit.

My only concern now is the only chance of voting down austerity now is an austerity party like Labour-if they vote through most of the measures as they did last term then we'll even more grim things to face in the next five years-if the tories are really gonna struggle it'll be on the referendum and europe.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

I just don't understand people. I really don't. How can you please be so fucking selfish and inturn people less fortunate than you to more miserly?

Because it's easy to scare people...and it is especially easy to scare people when there is little or no positive and believable option available.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[Favelado]

I just don't understand people. I really don't. How can you please be so fucking selfish and inturn people less fortunate than you to more miserly?

The worst thing is that this has become a vicous circle now. Since Thatcher, the same pernicious messages about the needy have been repeated so many times that they've become givens as far as many are concerned. To get elected, you have to subscribe to them. Once elected you repeat them. Once repeated they become reinforced.

It's a shame people aren't sad-looking dogs on Facebook, because people care about them.

 

[coley]

Jesse Rae only got 135 votes in Berwickshire Roxburgh.
Bastards wouldn't let him take his five foot claymore into the polling stations!

And just over the border the Tories win with a 5000 majority!

 

[bemused]

I think both Clegg and Miliband's resignation speeches were good.

 

[cesare]

I think both Clegg and Miliband's resignation speeches were good.

Good compared to not having a resignation speech.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

My only concern now is the only chance of voting down austerity now is an austerity party like Labour-if they vote through most of the measures as they did last term then we'll even more grim things to face in the next five years-if the tories are really gonna struggle it'll be on the referendum and europe.

I agree - it looks grim as fuck at the moment. But the majority is tiny, and given the rightwing headbangers in the tory party I hope they resurrent their grievances with avengance like they did a couple of decades back. There's also the usual rate of attrition of MPs dying, defecting or being convicted that might help shave numbers off the majority. So some hope, but not much today.

 

[Pickman's model]

I think both Clegg and Miliband's resignation speeches were good.

good compared to the sort of shit you hear from trots on demos.

 

[Pickman's model]

My only concern now is the only chance of voting down austerity now is an austerity party like Labour-if they vote through most of the measures as they did last term then we'll even more grim things to face in the next five years-if the tories are really gonna struggle it'll be on the referendum and europe.

yeh my more immediate concern is not 'who do i vote for' but 'how shit will things get in the next five months, let alone the next five years'.

 

[brogdale]

They got 80 in tooting. 80.

I think that was the Castle point haul, actually.

 

[coley]

There are some positives from this. Richard Desmond has spunked a million quid with little to show for it. McVey lost her seat. The tories are operating on a slim majority. They dont have the backing of the 40 odd seats in the last coalition. Things arent going to be easy for Cameron-because he has to now implement his promises with no get out clause of having to compromise because he's part of a coalition -and I think, particularly around europe, they will struggle.

Now with this slim majority he needs every swinging dick in the tory party to vote-meaning they could lose some key issues and even trigger a vote of no confidence in some circumstances-of course this slim majority wont be a problem if Labour carry on down the path of austerity-cause they'll vote for most cuts as they did last parliament.

Aye, Major had a 21 seat majority and they spent the next few years tearing themselves to bits.

 

[cesare]

I agree - it looks grim as fuck at the moment. But the majority is tiny, and given the rightwing headbangers in the tory party I hope they resurrent their grievances with avengance like they did a couple of decades back. There's also the usual rate of attrition of MPs dying, defecting or being convicted that might help shave numbers off the majority. So some hope, but not much today.

I wonder how many of the present incumbents might go to the wall in child abuse fall out.

 

[butchersapron]

I think that was the Castle point haul, actually.

There has been further investigation i'm afraid and it appears it was a phantom 80.

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

Warwick & Leamington. Lib-Dems lost deposit by 14 votes, tragic.

 

[brogdale]

There has been further investigation i'm afraid and it appears it was a phantom 80.

Shame; but even being wrong by a factor of 10 sees them well short of 1k

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Warwick & Leamington. Lib-Dems lost deposit by 14 votes, tragic.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

I wonder how many of the present incumbents might go to the wall in child abuse fall out.

That would be interesting if it happened.

 

[krtek a houby]

I don't understand. What happened?

 

[Lurdan]

I see here in Bethnal Green and Bow the 'Red Flag - Anti - Corruption' candidate managed to parlay his groupings involvement in the legal action which overturned Mayor Rahman into coming last with 58 votes. That's one fifth of the votes the 'Cannabis Is Safer Than Alcohol' candidate got.

Otherwise collapse of the Lib vote, most of it going to Labour.

 

[Dogsauce]

I just don't understand people. I really don't. How can you please be so fucking selfish and inturn people less fortunate than you to more miserly?

Because people just want to get on with their lives as untroubled as possible, and were sold the idea that a Labour-led government would be 'chaos'. That's the term Cameron pedalled over and over again, while other tory MPs were tweeting simultaneously about his 'commanding performance' when involved in any debate, emphasising him as a safe pair of hands. It's not about hating the poor or the sick, it's just a failure to even consider them and put your own security first. Self-interest rather than spite. Government now controls so little and holds so little ideology that all most people demand is competence (no matter how illusory). That was the battleground.

 

[danny la rouge]

So, who will lead the Octocunts now, and does it matter?

 

[paolo]

Aye, Major had a 21 seat majority and they spent the next few years tearing themselves to bits.

My worry: This'll lead to worse. EU exit (for me) is a dark shadow. Cameron never wanted it, but was appeasing. With a slim majority, he'll carry on playing party politics and potentially we're out.

Hope I'm wrong about that.

 

[J Ed]

Because people just want to get on with their lives as untroubled as possible, and were sold the idea that a Labour-led government would be 'chaos'. That's the term Cameron pedalled over and over again, while other tory MPs were tweeting simultaneously about his 'commanding performance' when involved in any debate, emphasising him as a safe pair of hands. It's not about hating the poor or the sick, it's just a failure to even consider them and put your own security first. Self-interest rather than spite. Government now controls so little and holds so little ideology that all most people demand is competence (no matter how illusory). That was the battleground.

A lot of them also do genuinely hate the poor and disabled, don't discount that.

 

[butchersapron]

My worry: This'll lead to worse. EU exit (for me) is a dark shadow. Cameron never wanted it, but was appeasing. With a slim majority, he'll carry on playing party politics and potentially we're out.

Hope I'm wrong about that.

Potential silver lining.

 

[Wilf]

So, who will lead the Octocunts now, and does it matter?

You want to trademark that one.

 

[Roadkill]

Potentially daft question, but does anyone know why St Ives still hasn't declared a result? Has it gone to a recount, or are they just being slow off the mark down there in the far south-west?!

 

[Wilf]

Potentially daft question, but does anyone know why St Ives still hasn't declared a result? Has it gone to a recount, or are they just being slow off the mark down there in the far south-west?!

Perhaps they just thought 'fuck it'?

 

[butchersapron]

Potentially daft question, but does anyone know why St Ives still hasn't declared a result? Has it gone to a recount, or are they just being slow off the mark down there in the far south-west?!

Embarrassment at relatively high lib dem vote.

I expect ukip related though.