General Election 2015 - chat, predictions, results and post election discussion

[Sprocket.]

my mum said that if she was in jail she'd know she would have three squares a day and a heated room to sleep in, but doing something to get you there would be unchristian. I've never seen her this despondant.

I would give this a like, but I know only too well how deep the disappoint runs. The struggle rolls on.

 

[Roadkill]

There are some positives from this. Richard Desmond has spunked a million quid with little to show for it. McVey lost her seat. The tories are operating on a slim majority. They dont have the backing of the 40 odd seats in the last coalition. Things arent going to be easy for Cameron-because he has to now implement his promises with no get out clause of having to compromise because he's part of a coalition -and I think, particularly around europe, they will struggle.

Now with this slim majority he needs every swinging dick in the tory party to vote-meaning they could lose some key issues and even trigger a vote of no confidence in some circumstances-of course this slim majority wont be a problem if Labour carry on down the path of austerity-cause they'll vote for most cuts as they did last parliament.

I was just starting to think along those lines. Let's hope there are quite a few bastards on Cameron's back benches.

 

[Wilf]

my mum said that if she was in jail she'd know she would have three squares a day and a heated room to sleep in, but doing something to get you there would be unchristian. I've never seen her this despondant.

Fuck, fuck, fuck

 

[flypanam]

My ex SP mate who actually left for very legitimate reasons kept texting me to laugh at tusc results. I almost told them to fuck off.

Your mate is right though. I voted TUSC just out a long dwindling allegiance to aspects of trot politics, but its another failure in a quite tragic history of failure. The landscape has changed and the trots are so up their own arses they can't see it.

One bright spot was in Belfast west with PBP getting 19% of the vote.

 

[Wilf]

I had mild hopes of Lab + snp slowing austerity down by a few slivers. I feel profoundly depressed that we are not going to even get that. I was woken up with a genuine panic attack last night. Psychologically it's not just about what will happen, it's the feeling that you can do so little about it.

 

[butchersapron]

Strapline in the Graun, I don't know whether to laugh or cry

Nick Clegg – the inoffensive ordinary guy who could have been great

One thing about Clegg is his appearance of supreme, inoffensive ordinariness that belies his family’s exotic origins, the Russian and Dutch antecedents and even his Spanish wife. He could be the headmaster of a successful prep school, perhaps, or a model in a Boden catalogue, the kind of person who would be comfortable to chat to at the school gate.

Yeah, that sounds right ordinary.

His record is two elections fought as leader:

1) Fewer MP's
2) Party destroyed.

 

[butchersapron]

I had mild hopes of Lab + snp slowing austerity down by a few slivers. I feel profoundly depressed that we are not going to even get that. I was woken up with a genuine panic attack last night. Psychologically it's not just about what will happen, it's the feeling that you do so little about it.

Is there a 'can' missing from the final clause?

 

[heinous seamus]

Lib Dems got 318 votes in Glasgow East, can anyone beat that?

 

[DotCommunist]

I had mild hopes of Lab + snp slowing austerity down by a few slivers. I feel profoundly depressed that we are not going to even get that. I was woken up with a genuine panic attack last night. Psychologically it's not just about what will happen, it's the feeling that you do so little about it.

odd aint it- we know intellectually that lab were going to follow the same path but with a sliver of lube. But the thought of those public school boys- and its the fucking accents on em. I know thats not brainy, but its a gut reaction. I know those accents, I know what they've said. The fucking blood on them tones.

urgh

maybe I'll think more rationally tomorrow.

 

[Wilf]

Is there a 'can' missing from the final clause?

There is yes! My reaction to last night's shit was to ramp up various meds to get to sleep. As a result even today's miserableism is incoherent.

 

[butchersapron]

Lib Dems got 318 votes in Glasgow East, can anyone beat that?

They got 80 in tooting. 80.

edit:warning - please do no like this post until you read further, it was castle point and the people who put out the info last night had it as 80, it 801 - still a lost deposit though

 

[coley]

Whey for the first time in my life I'm living in a Tory constituency, fuck.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

if she was in jail she'd know she would have three squares a day and a heated room to sleep in

now the tories don't have the 'sensible and moderating influence of the lib dems' i wouldn't bet on that for much longer...

 

[Wilf]

odd aint it- we know intellectually that lab were going to follow the same path but with a sliver of lube. But the thought of those public school boys- and its the fucking accents on em. I know thats not brainy, but its a gut reaction. I know those accents, I know what they've said. The fucking blood on them tones.

urgh

maybe I'll think more rationally tomorrow.

Yeah, I'm not even thinking 'big picture', just words like Maximus, Bedroom Tax - and hateful cunts in the ascendant. It'll be hearing the platitudes of the victorious, whilst knowing the shit they are about to unleash. This all feels worse than 2010.

 

[paolo]

Galloway's loser speech started alright but then segued effortlessly into trademark vainglorious nonsense - "The hyena can dance on the lion's grave but it can never be a lion"

OMG he said *that*

 

[Grandma Death]

I was just starting to think along those lines. Let's hope there are quite a few bastards on Cameron's back benches.

Plenty and on Europe even more-I forsee the open war and old battle lines over europe causing real rifts. The backbenchers wont want a vote of confidence-but equally they are in a stronger position to force cameron to have to accommodate them even more now. He'll need them and they'll need him too.

 

[DotCommunist]

now the tories don't have the 'sensible and moderating influence of the lib dems' i wouldn't bet on that for much longer...

if they are any students of history they'll speak bread and water and practise different. Prison riots- strangeways- IIRC thatch once sent the SAS in to break a prison strike/riot.

 

[Orang Utan]

Foxtons shares shot up by 13% today

 

[1%er]

 

[Grandma Death]

Whey for the first time in my life I'm living in a Tory constituency, fuck.

Yep me too. Labour had a 2000 majority. The tories targeted it. They had more resources to do so too. I saw them on my doorstep and leaflets 3-5 times a week come through my door. I had just two from Labour and not one member on my doorstep

 

[Grandma Death]

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[cesare]

Yeah, I'm not even thinking 'big picture', just words like Maximus, Bedroom Tax - and hateful cunts in the ascendant. It'll be hearing the platitudes of the victorious, whilst knowing the shit they are about to unleash. This all feels worse than 2010.

Labour wouldn't have reversed that anyway.

 

[Pickman's model]

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so the tories got 36.9% of a mite less than 66% turnout: 24.4% of the registered population.

 

[Roadkill]

Plenty and on Europe even more-I forsee the open war and old battle lines over europe causing real rifts. The backbenchers wont want a vote of confidence-but equally they are in a stronger position to force cameron to have to accommodate them even more now. He'll need them and they'll need him too.

I think you might well be right. Hopefully the chuntering will start as soon as the initial euphoria at having won a majority - when, lest we forget, a lot of people thought the vermin might never be able to again - wears off. It's a small crumb of comfort for a black day, anyway.

Tbh, though, my sense of foreboding is getting worse. The one area in which you could be generous enough to give the Lib Dems a little credit for moderating the Tories is renewable energy, something a lot of the Tory right have very little time for. I imagine the renewables industry is eyeing the new government with a lot of trepidation. Round here, with offshore wind etc the best economic hope in a couple of generations, it could really fuck things up. Shit.

 

[butchersapron]

Hang on,it wasn't tooting - let me find which one it was.

 

[Barking_Mad]

Better pull those anti depressants from out the back of the cupboard. Black Dog is back.

 

[Wilf]

Labour wouldn't have reversed that anyway.

Yeah, I know, just thinking of the kind of initiatives that will be ramped up as they speed the attack up. Anyway, fuck em all.

 

[butchersapron]

It was castle point. And bugger, it was 80 last night (as many posts on here about it will confirm) - it's now 801.

edit: some places still say 80.

 

[Barking_Mad]

I just don't understand people. I really don't. How can you please be so fucking selfish and inturn people less fortunate than you to more miserly?

 

[coley]

I think you might well be right. Hopefully the chuntering will start as soon as the initial euphoria at having won a majority - when, lest we forget, a lot of people thought the vermin might never be able to again - wears off. It's a small crumb of comfort for a black day, anyway.

Tbh, though, my sense of foreboding is getting worse. The one area in which you could be generous enough to give the Lib Dems a little credit for moderating the Tories is renewable energy, something a lot of the Tory right have very little time for. I imagine the renewables industry is eyeing the new government with a lot of trepidation. Round here, with offshore wind etc the best economic hope in a couple of generations, it could really fuck things up. Shit.

Aye, one of the few bright spots in the last few years has been the move to renewables, though a lot more could have been done to actually move into turbine construction.