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certainly clever enough, and certainly personable - is she tainted by the whole Miliband/Brown/Balls debacle?

Just from my perception I think one of the real issues both the Tories and Labour had was the they run such a managed sterile campaign you essentially ended up with Dave and Ed plastic action figures running our set piece slogans. Neither of them were authentic, Davy some just slightly more personable.

They need someone who comes across as an human being and a lot less managed.
 
Just from my perception I think one of the real issues both the Tories and Labour had was the they run such a managed sterile campaign you essentially ended up with Dave and Ed plastic action figures running our set piece slogans. Neither of them were authentic, Davy some just slightly more personable.

They need someone who comes across as an human being and a lot less managed.

I'd argue that Ed came across more human, but it's a 'whatever' now. :-/
 
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About the only cheer I'm taking from the night...

Agreed. So depressed right now. This vote is my valium.
 
Very last hope now, a combine of Lab + SNP (etc... the anti con bloc) can make things awkward for the Cons in government.

I know, I'm clutching at shitty straws. :(
 
Very last hope now, a combine of Lab + SNP (etc... the anti con bloc) can make things awkward for the Cons in government.

I know, I'm clutching at shitty straws. :(

I can see them giving Scotland more power and passing the English MP votes for English laws bill.
 
Galloway's loser speech started alright but then segued effortlessly into trademark vainglorious nonsense - "The hyena can dance on the lion's grave but it can never be a lion"
 
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Good. Fucking serves them right.
Too true, I'm not going to shed any tears over the pricks. They're already lurching even more to the right - see scum like Picarda on the other thread, Hodges etc.

Fuck them, this isn't the fault of people for not voting for them (how dare those Scots desert us!), it's their fault for taking w/c voters for granted for x number of years, for arguing that they'll be tougher on benefits than the tories, for having their only line be "well at least you're not the tories" while still arguing for austerity.

It's worth noting that the Tories barely increased their share of the vote from 2010. Those of us with pro-w/c politics shouldn't fall in with the "british people = Turkeys voting for Xmas" bullshit that already starts to be coming from some areas. We should take promise from the fact that even on a weak social-democratic message the SNP and Greens have done well.

The challenge for us is to not to let this throw us from the workplace and community work that we do but to try and use these new opportunities that will come up to take the fight in different directions.
 
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I thought when I went to bed at 1 last night that I might wake up to something less nightmarish, instead it really is 5 more years of this con shite.

Oh well props to Sarah Jones in Croydon central - she put up a fierce fight but lost out by a hundred and something votes :(
 
The anti-SNP vote was evenly split here. Had the Unionists acted together Anne Begg would have kept her seat.
 
I can't bring myself to read the last fifty pages and reinforce my misery so I'll just have to try and keep up from here. Fuck this is bad, I took a brew up to La Liberette and managed to stave off telling her the truth by entertaining her with tales of the SNP's successes. I saved Danny Alexander 'til last for the lulz and then I had to tell her the rest.
 
I thought when I went to bed at 1 last night that I might wake up to something less nightmarish, instead it really is 5 more years of this con shite.

Oh well props to Sarah Jones in Croydon central - she put up a fierce fight but lost out by a hundred and something votes :(
I said that Ashcroft's poll predicting this was 'rogue'. I was wrong and he was right. Turns out that the former LDs of CroCent were the only ones that he polled who told the truth about their breaking Con/Lab...the stupid fuckers.
 
If the Tories only just squeak it, which looks likely, there'll be another election sooner rather than later.
 
WTF UK?

I must still be asleep, this can't be real.

I'd like to know what a proper PR system would have produced?
 
I just have to say I feel sad and disappointed. Well Britain you have made your bed, now lay in it.
^ This bullshit posted on another thread is the type of crap I'm talking about. I mean regardless of anything else it's just factually wrong. The Tories will take less than 40% of the vote on a turnout that won't be much higher than 2010.

I said Labour got the result it deserved well then so did much of the Left. You treat the electorate as fools to be lectured and they'll tell you to fuck off - see what happened to Labour in Scotland.
 
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