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Anyone hoping to see a parade of waxed moustache types rolling up on penny farthings at Leatherhead yesterday must have been very disappointed.
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Nope...I might be 'turning' into an old git...but I was never a racist like him...
Paul's Brother
Active Member
I read this thread and I think many are guilty of taking this and the collective that is our supporters a tad too seriously. Articles in the mainstream media about this club only increases our exposure and footprint - more people talking about Dulwich Hamlet whether positive, critical, incorrect can't be a bad thing.
A marketing machine could only dream of building exposure like this for what is a level 7 football club in a very crowded geographical area with no shortage of other teams at level 6-8 a bus ride away.
Just don't be taking ourselves too seriously and we'll be fine. Remember its Tuscany, sexy football and us.
A marketing machine could only dream of building exposure like this for what is a level 7 football club in a very crowded geographical area with no shortage of other teams at level 6-8 a bus ride away.
Just don't be taking ourselves too seriously and we'll be fine. Remember its Tuscany, sexy football and us.
In the main I agree...'all publicity is good publicity'...it's the lazy journalists I can't stand...
But if they were that bad I wouldn't talk to them...the exposure we've got over the last twelve months is unprecedented...
But if they were that bad I wouldn't talk to them...the exposure we've got over the last twelve months is unprecedented...
StephenMac
Well-Known Member
So, home to Staines in the second round of the Alan Turvey Death Cult League Cup.
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We'll 'ave 'em this time.
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
from a millwall forum about the guardian article
http://www.millwall.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=117403&start=1
dont shoot the messenger!
http://www.millwall.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=117403&start=1
dont shoot the messenger!
Fingers
From Tuscany SE22
All that is wrong with Millwall, in a nut shell
Not all Millwall are like that...there are a few positive comments in there...but, hey, let's stick to the old stereotypes eh?
Thimble Queen
Called away to another place
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Thimble Queen
Called away to another place
Old moaner is obviously trolling. Don't let him win.
Eh? Is that aimed at me?
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I bet you must be disappointed that there's some sensible comments in amongst all the predictable Neanderthal knee jerk drivel about ' nonces ponces and pansy wrong uns.'
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Meh. It's not as bad as I expected from the last few comments on this thread tbh.
Joe K
no al calcio con orchestra di ukulele
Not all Millwall are like that, no, but there are enough Millwall who don't seem to care that people think that about them, and actively revel in the stereotype. I have to say that I don't believe any other clubs' fans turned up at local non-league grounds to 'welcome' Darlington with knives, screwdrivers etc - which is what Millwall did at Fisher the season we won the Conference. (Caveat: I was only eight, and obviously not there, but it's well-remembered.)
Predictable, anyway - all this post-'96er crap, some from people I expect are actually too young to remember 1996 themselves.
Joe K
no al calcio con orchestra di ukulele
It's also really odd that there's a whole swathe of football fans who think the 'golden era' of terrace violence was basically the entire history of football pre-1990/1996/ Nick Hornby. The real madness only went on from the turn of the seventies to the early nineties; what they call 'real football' existed for less time than has elapsed since it ended. Certainly, the generation immediately above them wouldn't recognise 'real football' as people kicking the shit out of each other at train stations. It's a pretty narrow window of 'reality', whatever you think of the morality of it.
Scutta
Live Fast Die Bizarre
this. the responses on there show exactly why "Lefties getting involved" in football is happening. Not being allowed to be racist, sexist or homophobic... oh the horror. Football is over.
Interestingly enough I was given some Millwall stickers on Saturday which were along the lines of "Millwall Anti-fascists" with a lion ripping up a swastika flag.... So if they're worried about lefties infiltrating football they should be looking closer to home.... cos they're already at the Den it seems...... hope they can deal with that wouldnt want to see their fans fighting each other rather than coming together to support the team.... oh wait a minute....
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EDC
A Slightly Less Invisible Cyber Fan These Days
Agreed, I think the comments posted would be similar on any other club's messageboards and I count my own Chelsea amongst them.
I wish the facts about the Maidstone match could be put right though, it was all ticket and Maidstone were given 1000 so in a 3,000 crowd they where outnumbered 2-1 and not the other way round as one poster has guessed.
Joe K
no al calcio con orchestra di ukulele
Dunno. Every club's message board seems to be full of self-appointedly ITK 'casuals', Tommy Robinson worshippers and, for the fainter of heart, boring UKIP wankers, but I still think there are a section of Millwall fans who make a point of order of trying to come across like this, taking pride in 'winding up the politically correct middle-class pricks' and so on and so forth.
(It just struck me, though, when I went for a coffee, that I got quite defensive when all to nah reported the terrible behaviour of some Darlo fans at Salford last season. Perhaps I'm being a bit of a hypocrite about the whole stereotyping issue.)
Paul's Brother
Active Member
3000 tickets were bought to attend a level 7 league match - some were Dulwich Hamlet, some were Maidstone, some came for the party, some came to tick the box on their groud-hopping guide, some probably got lost going to Sainsburys. I bought two and didn't use either because when the significance of this match as a competitive fixture dropped to dead-rubber status I went to watch my league team - does any of this matter beyond the first part of this post?
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Don't get me wrong...I'm not defending the majority of comments on there...but are still lots of decent Millwall fans, and yes-shock, horror!-some on the left, some of whom also pop down to Champion Hill.
Yes, a larger than usual contingent of their fans play up to their stereotypes...but that's no reason to criticise Millwall as a whole...the club has, like it or not, made huge strides, it's just overshadowed by the 'louder minority'.
If we make such assumptions of everyone at Millwall based on the ones we don't like we can't really complain when we're stereotyped as hipsters etc.
Yes, a larger than usual contingent of their fans play up to their stereotypes...but that's no reason to criticise Millwall as a whole...the club has, like it or not, made huge strides, it's just overshadowed by the 'louder minority'.
If we make such assumptions of everyone at Millwall based on the ones we don't like we can't really complain when we're stereotyped as hipsters etc.
As for the Maidstone attendance...they had a total of 900 tickets in the end, and some bought a few more from us. It's widely agreed by our fans and theirs that they brought around a thousand.
Joe K
no al calcio con orchestra di ukulele
Good points well made. I do, for what it's worth, know Millwall fans who are good people, whether they're commitedly 'on the left' or not. It's just I resent the way some of their fans think they're the be all and end all when it comes to defining what a 'real' football supporter is.
It's not just some of those Millwall fans with that attitude...their right to 'define' what a 'proper' football fan is...is 'ingrained' in most fans of most clubs.
To be honest, if say fifteen years ago, we had travelled to a club like Dulwich are now, I would have been one of those going 'who the fuck are these wankers'....
To be honest, if say fifteen years ago, we had travelled to a club like Dulwich are now, I would have been one of those going 'who the fuck are these wankers'....
Joe K
no al calcio con orchestra di ukulele
Maybe so. Perhaps it's just the proximity of Millwall and Dulwich that makes this stand out.
Joe K
no al calcio con orchestra di ukulele
I'm a big fan of Calvin's book on scouting - been meaning to give this a read for ages.
